Earl of Arundel Roger de Montgomery Earl of Arundel 
Roger de was born about 1005 in Normandy, France. Roger de's father was Roger I Hugh , Count of Montgomery and his mother was Josseline de Pontaudemer. His paternal grandparents were II Hugh Roger Seigneur de Montgomery II and Sibell de Crepon; his maternal grandparents were Therold de PONTAUDEMER and Senfrie De Crepon. He had a brother named Gilbert de. He died on July 27th, 1094 in Shrewsbury, England. He was buried in Abbey of St Peter, Shrewsbury.General Notes
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OCCU Earl of Montgomery ...
SOUR misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn;
HAWKINS.GED says CIR 1005; gendex.com/users/daver/rigney says 1022 and place;
Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 238 says c1005;
SOUR HAWKINS.GED;
Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 238 says 27 Jul 1094;
COMYNI.GED (Compuserve) says ABT 27 Jul 1094;
SOUR gendex.com/users/daver/rigney/D0001
Roger de Montgomeri - COMYN4.TAF (Compuserve), p. 23; Earl of Shrewsbury,
Earl of Arundel, Regent of Normandie - COMYNI.GED (Compuserve);Roger II of
Montgomery (later earl of Shrewsbury), supporter of William the Conqueror -
The Norman Conquest, C.T. Chevallier, p.55;The Franco-Flemish division, esti-
mated strength 1,600, under Roger...,2nd in the column [at the Battle of Hast-
ings] - p. 104;E. of Chichester-Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart,p137
ROGER DE MONTGOMERY, son of ROGER DE MONTGOMERI and JOSCELINE. was Seigneur de Montgomery, Vicomte of Hiemois; Earl of Arundel and Shrewsbury; Regent of Normandy and England - Royalty for Commoners,
Roderick W. Stuart, p. 237
Scott and Brian show two different dates. Scott shows he died 1123. I am not 100% sure this is the correct line. But it does point to this based on the dates etc. Royal Ancestors of some American
Families by Michel Call SLC 1989 #409 -
http://gendex.com/users/daver/rigney/D0001/G0000066.html#I742
OCCU Earl of Montgomery ...
SOUR misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn;
HAWKINS.GED says CIR 1005; gendex.com/users/daver/rigney says 1022 and place;
Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 238 says c1005;
SOUR HAWKINS.GED;
Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 238 says 27 Jul 1094;
COMYNI.GED (Compuserve) says ABT 27 Jul 1094;
SOUR gendex.com/users/daver/rigney/D0001
Roger de Montgomeri - COMYN4.TAF (Compuserve), p. 23; Earl of Shrewsbury,
Earl of Arundel, Regent of Normandie - COMYNI.GED (Compuserve);Roger II of
Montgomery (later earl of Shrewsbury), supporter of William the Conqueror -
The Norman Conquest, C.T. Chevallier, p.55;The Franco-Flemish division, esti-
mated strength 1,600, under Roger...,2nd in the column [at the Battle of Hast-
ings] - p. 104;E. of Chichester-Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart,p137
ROGER DE MONTGOMERY, son of ROGER DE MONTGOMERI and JOSCELINE. was Seigneur de Montgomery, Vicomte of Hiemois; Earl of Arundel and Shrewsbury; Regent of Normandy and England - Royalty for Commoners,
Roderick W. Stuart, p. 237
Scott and Brian show two different dates. Scott shows he died 1123. I am not 100% sure this is the correct line. But it does point to this based on the dates etc. Royal Ancestors of some American
Families by Michel Call SLC 1989 #409 -
http://gendex.com/users/daver/rigney/D0001/G0000066.html#I742
OCCU Earl of Montgomery ...
SOUR misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn;
HAWKINS.GED says CIR 1005; gendex.com/users/daver/rigney says 1022 and place;
Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 238 says c1005;
SOUR HAWKINS.GED;
Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 238 says 27 Jul 1094;
COMYNI.GED (Compuserve) says ABT 27 Jul 1094;
SOUR gendex.com/users/daver/rigney/D0001
Roger de Montgomeri - COMYN4.TAF (Compuserve), p. 23; Earl of Shrewsbury,
Earl of Arundel, Regent of Normandie - COMYNI.GED (Compuserve);Roger II of
Montgomery (later earl of Shrewsbury), supporter of William the Conqueror -
The Norman Conquest, C.T. Chevallier, p.55;The Franco-Flemish division, esti-
mated strength 1,600, under Roger...,2nd in the column [at the Battle of Hast-
ings] - p. 104;E. of Chichester-Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart,p137
ROGER DE MONTGOMERY, son of ROGER DE MONTGOMERI and JOSCELINE. was Seigneur de Montgomery, Vicomte of Hiemois; Earl of Arundel and Shrewsbury; Regent of Normandy and England - Royalty for Commoners,
Roderick W. Stuart, p. 237
Scott and Brian show two different dates. Scott shows he died 1123. I am not 100% sure this is the correct line. But it does point to this based on the dates etc. Royal Ancestors of some American
Families by Michel Call SLC 1989 #409 -
http://gendex.com/users/daver/rigney/D0001/G0000066.html#I742
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OCCU Earl of Shropshire & Shrewsbury; Earl of Arundel
EDUC Vicomte of Heimois,sire of Alenconubject: Re: Roger de MontgomeryFrom: Jim Stevens <jstevens@IQUEST.NET>Date: Sun, 6 Apr 1997 21:43:06 -0500>Dear Jim,> I was reading a post of yours on
Roger de Montgomery(answer to Jay>Garner 11/25/96) and the dates rang a bell. I have Roger deBeaumont, b.>about 1022 in Normandy, d. 1094. He was Seigneur ofPort-Audemer. He was>said to have
governed Normandy while William was off inEngland. He married>Adeline de Meullent about 1040. This information came from theMary & John>series (source of one of Gordon Fisher's posts, also).>
I'm no scholar - most of my education at the moment iscoming from>this list since I don't have easy access to the books mentioned(although>I'm improving my library as the pocketbook allows). But I
wasstruck by the>similarities between Roger de Beaumont and Roger de Montgomery.Can you>straighten me out????> I also enjoyed your posts on Thomas of Savoy althoughI'm hopelessly>lost in
Burgundy! My relationships to these people are probablyshaky, but>fun! You don't happen to have any du Bois (they connect with deFiennes) or>de Forests, do you? I'm on solid ground with them.>>Becky
Kenton Pyle (becky@4you.net)> 541 Bloomfield Ave.; Urbana, Champaign Co., OH 43078Becky, thanks for the kind words. As far as I can tell theBeaumont andMontgomery families were not related. I
will share with you mynotes onthe two Rogers:Roger de Montgomery:1st Earl of Arundel and Shrewsbury. His wife, MABEL, broughthim theLordship af Alcenon in Normandy. When WILLIAM THE
CONQUERERinvadedEngland in 1066, Roger remained in Normandy as regent. Hejoined WILLIAMin England in 1067 and was created Earl of Arundel. Upon thedismembermentof Mercia in 1070, he was also given
land in the Welsh Marchesand becameEarl of Shrewsbury.Roger de Beaumont:Weis" "Ancestral Roots. . ." (50:24)."ROGER DE BEAUMONT, SIRE DE PONTEAUDEMER, born about 1010,succeeded to thefamily estates
in Normandy, as Sire du Ponteaudemer, Seigneur deVeulles,Pre'aux, Torville, and du Ponteaitorf, and Seigneur de Beaumont(orBellomont), by which last name he came to be generallydescribed. By
hismarriage he greatly increased the possessions and prestige ofthe family,and he rose to be one of the most powerful feudal noblemen ofhis age inNormandy. When William the Conqueror invaded
England in 1066,Roger deBeaumont furnished sixty armed vessels for the fleet and wasleft in chargeof the government of Normandy when the Conqueror started on theexpedition.He munificently endowed
the Abbey of Pre'aux, of which late inlife hebecame a monk; and dying in 1094 at advanced age, he was buriedin thismonastery at Ponteaudemer, Normandy."--- J Gardner Bartlett, *Newberry Genealogy*,
Boston, 1914, p4-5.Roger's two sons, Robert and Henry, both accompanied DukeWilliam when heinvaded England and both recieved vast estates and titles.As you observe, the two men had remarkably
similiar careers andsurely musthave worked closely together while Duke William was in England.I wish Icould clarify each of their roles as "regent" and as "being incharge ofthe government" of
Normandy, but I can't.I am sending a copy of this post to GEN-MEDIEVAL in the hopesthat someonecan further eloborate.Today is the first day of the rest of your life !(jstevens@iquest.net)
JimSubject: Re: Roger de Montgomery/Roger de BeaumontFrom: ntaylor@fas.harvard.edu (Nathaniel Taylor)Date: Mon, 07 Apr 1997 00:11:22 -0500To Jim Stevens' account of these two men I would only add
thatthey andtheir posterities can be found in Schwennicke's ES 3:637-41(Montgomery)and 3:700,702-4 (Beaumont). Both are mentioned extensively inDavid C.Douglas' excellent biography of _William the
Conqueror_(Berkeley, 1964)and will no doubt also be found in the _Complete Peerage_ underShrewsbury(Montgomery) and Leicester (Beaumont).Nat Taylor
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*There are earlier generations for the ancestor(s) indicated. See their page(s) for details (click name)
- b.0950
- b.0990 in ST GERMAIN, MONTGOMERY, NORMANDY d.07 Feb 1056
- b.~ 0900
- b.~ 0925 in Normandy France d.> 0980
- b.~ 0905
- b.0952
- b.~ 0915 in Sweden
- b.~ 1005 in Normandy, France d.27 Jul 1094 in Shrewsbury, England
- b.~ 0904 in Normandy France d.~ 0955
- b.0928 in Normandy, France d.0960 in AKA Torfin, Seigeur de Torraille----------see notes
- b.0848 in Vermandois Neustria d.0902 in MURDERED
- b.~ 0911 in Bretagne, France d.< 0940
- b.~ 0862 in Bar-le-Duc (France) d.0908 in St. Quentin - Widow of Herbert
- b.0960 in Normandy, France d.> 1040
- b.0909 in Maer, Nord Trondelag, Norway d.> 0919 in Earl of Orkneys and Maer Norway 920
- b.0936 in Normandy, -----------------see notes d. in living in 10th cent.
- b.~ 0890 in Tillieres, Normandy, France d.BET 950/998
- b.~ 0932 in ancestress of Harcourt family in England, ancestors of d.~ 1000 in George Washington, President
- b.~ 0975 in Pont-Audemer, Normandy, France d.~ 1048
- b.~ 0900
- b.~ 0925 in Normandy France d.> 0980
- b.~ 0905
- b.0948 in France
- b.~ 0915 in Sweden
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