Joan de Grey 
Joan de was born about 1257 in Wilton Castle, Ross-on-Wye, Herefordshire, England. Joan de's father was Reynold 1st Baron de Grey , of Wilton, Sir and her mother was Maud de Longchamp , Heiress of Wilton. Her paternal grandparents were John de Grey , of Shirland, Sir and Emma de Cauz; her maternal grandparents were Henry de Longchamp , of Wilton, Sir and Joan. She had a brother named John 2nd Baron de. She was the older of the two children. She died before 1285.General Notes
Following is excerpted from a posting by Douglas Richardson to soc.genealogy.medieval, newsgroup:
From: Douglas Richardson (royalancestry@@msn.com)
Subject: Joan, 1st wife of Sir Edmund de Mortimer (died 1304)
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2002-01-13 02:22:43 PST
Dear Newsgroup ~
I recently came across four legal cases in the Year Books of King Edward I which appear to identify the hitherto unidentified first wife of Sir Edmund de Mortimer (died 1302), of Wigmore, co. Hereford. The unknown first wife is thought to have been the mother of Sir Edmund's daughter, Iseult de Mortimer, wife of Hugh de Audley, from whom many colonial immigrants are descended.
Although the particulars provided in the legal cases are less than desireable, the first legal case presented below indicates that Sir Edmund's wife's name was Joan. A pedigree is set forth in which Joan is identified as the daughter of Maud, who in turn is said to be the daughter of "W.", which "W." was in turn called brother and heir of Henry.
Curiously, the wording of the pedigree in the first Mortimer case seems to be a near exact match to two other suits in the same Hereford iter which involve property held by Sir Reynold de Grey, of Wilton, co. Hereford, and his wife, Maud de Longchamp. In one of these suits, Maud de Longchamp is identified as the daughter of "W.", which "W." in turn is identified as the brother and heir of a certain Henry. In both the Mortimer and Grey cases, the said "Henry" is stated to have received his lands by grant of King Richard. In the Mortimer suit, the King demands the manor of "C." against Edmund de Mortimer and Joan his wife. The Prior of "E." is said to hold the advowson. In one of the Grey suits, the king demands the manor of "C." against Reynold and Maud de Grey, the advowson of which property is held by the Prior of "C."
Since the particulars in the Mortimer and Grey suits are similar in virtually every point, it seems highly probable that Sir Edmund de Mortimer's wife, Joan, is in fact the daughter of Sir Reynold de Grey and his wife, Maud de Longchamp.
The chronology seems to work o.k. for this identification of Edmund de Mortimer's wife. Research indicates that Edmund de Mortimer was born about 1252, being aged 30 at his father's death in 1282. Sir Reynold de Grey was born say 1230/5, and married before 1257 to Maud de Longchamp, the heiress of Wilton, co. Hereford. As such, it seems entirely possible that Sir Edmund de Mortimer's wife, Joan, was the daughter of Sir Reynold de Grey.
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Ancestor Pedigree Chart
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*There are earlier generations for the ancestor(s) indicated. See their page(s) for details (click name)
- b.~ 1130 in Rotherfield Greys, Henley-on-Thames, Oxfordshire, England d. in Thurrock Grey, Essex, England
- b.~ 1150 in Thurrock Grey, Essex, England d.> 1198 in Standlake, Witney, Oxfordshire, England
- b.1133 in Hocknorton, Oxfordshire, England
- b.1176 in Thurrock Grey, Essex, England d.1219 in Codnor, Derbyshire, England
- b.1116 in Tunbridge Castle, Kent, England d.1173 in Oxfordshire, England
- b.~ 1154 in Tunbridge Castle, Kent, England
- b.~ 1132 in Burkenham, Norfolk, England d.1173 in Norfolk, England
- b.~ 1200 in Shirland, Derbyshire, England d.18 MAR 1265/66
- b.~ 1122 in Ravensworth, Richmond, North Ride Yorkshire, England d.> 1174 in Great Carlton, Lincolnshire, England
- b.~ 1140 in Great Carlton, Lincolnshire, England d.~ 1176 in of Waddington, Riseholm, & Scothern, Lincolnshire, England
- b.~ 1176 in Great Carlton, Lincolnshire, England d.18 Jun 1246 in Codnor, Derbyshire, England
- b.~ 1108 in Thorngate Castle, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England d.~ 1141
- b.~ 1140 in Thorngate Castle, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England
- b.~ 1098 in Hertford, Hertfordshire, England d.> 1142
- b.~ 1236 in Shirland, Derbyshire, England d.05 Apr 1308 in Wilton Castle, Ross-on-Wye, Herefordshire, England
- b.~ 1106 in Shelford, Nottinghamshire, England d.> 1168
- b.~ 1154 in Shelford, Nottinghamshire, England d.> 1198 in Shalbourne, Wiltshire, England
- b.~ 1118 in Great Weldon, Northamptonshire, England d.> 1185
- b.~ 1180 in Water Eaton, Buckinghamshire, England
- b.~ 1210 in Water Eaton, Buckinghamshire, England
- b.~ 1135 in Thurleigh, Bedfordshire, England
- b.~ 1160 in Snellson, Buckinghamshire, England d.1217 in Thurleigh, Bedfordshire, England
- b.~ 1135 in Broomhall, Surrey, England
- b.~ 1185 in Snellson, Buckinghamshire, England
- b.1140 in England
- b.~ 1165 in England d.> 1242
- b.~ 1257 in Wilton Castle, Ross-on-Wye, Herefordshire, England d.< 1285
- b.1138 in Wilton Castle, Ross-on-Wye, Herefordshire, England
- b.1158 in Wilton Castle, Ross-on-Wye, Herefordshire, England d.1212
- b.1138 in Wartling, Sussex, England
- b.~ 1177 in Wilton Castle, Ross-on-Wye, Herefordshire, England
- b.1126 in Longueville, St Saviour, Jersey, Channel Isles d.~ 1182
- b.~ 1155 in Longueville, St Saviour, Jersey, Channel Isles
- b.~ 1210 in Wilton Castle, Ross-on-Wye, Herefordshire, England
- b.1155 in England
- b.1185 in England
- b.~ 1240 in Wilton Castle, Ross-on-Wye, Herefordshire, England d.<21 Nov 1302
- b.1213 in England
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Joan de and Edmund 1st Baron de were married in a religious ceremony in 1st wife. They had a daughter named Isolde (Iseude) de.
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Children
Isolde (Iseude) de Mortimer
Isolde (Iseude) de was born about 1275 in Wigmore, Herefordshire, England. She died after 1336.
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