- b.1012 in Genf, Geneva, Helvetiz, Switzerland d.1061
- b.~ 1035 in Genf, Geneva, Helvetiz, Switzerland d.1080
- b.~ 1015 in Switzerland d.< 1060
- b.~ 1050 in Genf, Geneva, Helvetiz, Switzerland d.1130
- b.1000 in Chambery, Savoie, Rhone-Alpes, France
- b.~ 1035 in Chambery, Savoie, Rhone-Alpes, France
- b.~ 1018 in St Rambert d'Albon, Isere, Rhone-Alpes, France