- b.1030 in Donzy, Nievre, Bourgogne, France d.> 1055
- b.~ 1055 in Donzy, Nievre, Bourgogne, France d.1120
- b.1030 in Chalons, Champagne, France
- b.~ 1090 in Donzy, Nievre, Bourgogne, France d.1157
- b.~ 1052 in Troyes, Aube, Champagne, France d.< 1099