General Notes

The following post to SGM, 30 May 2002, by Todd Farmerie, gives Eudon's parents, and his possible descendants:

From: Todd A. Farmerie (farmerie@@interfold.com)
Subject: Re: HP - new pages - Flanders
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2002-05-30 21:46:45 PST

Joe Cochoit wrote:

> On your Arnulf II page you don't mention a possible son Eudes,  Count
> of Cambrai who m. Odele of Bois Ferrand and was ancestor of  the Counts
> of Brienne.

I had forgotten this (sorry Stewart).

> I believe I got this Eudes from RFC lines 184, 254, 383
> (don't laugh).  A search of the archives shows he has been  mentioned
> several times, primarily in posts by Todd Farmerie and as best  as I
> can tell he has not been completely proven or disproven; Todd  sites
> the original research as being done by Moriarity.

Not exactly.  I was only taking it from Moriarty's Plantagenet Ancestry, where he reports getting it from the unpublished research of Friedrich von Stauffenburg, Esq. of Washington D.C. He states that the Chartulary of St Pierre de Chambrai "records a remembrance for the Count Odo (Eudes), son of Count Arnulf and Susanne 'lately Queen of France' . . . It provides for prayers for his soul and the souls of his father Arnulf, his mother Susanne, his sister Matilda, widow of Guilbert de Beaumont."

It may seem odd that he has singled out this sister, but it should be remembered that Eudes is said to have created a scandal by marrying his niece Adele, daughter of Matilda.  He is said by Moriarty to have had by her two sons, Richard and Roger, who went to Italy with the Normans, and then married Adele of Bois Ferrand, having "Engelbert of Brienne, Roger Count of St. Pol, and Peter Count of Arlon."

He also cites several additional chartularies.

I would love to see the original research of F. von S., but the above at least looks conclusive regarding Eudes as a son of Arnulf and Susanne.  It is the connection of the Brienne, St. Pol, and Arlon to Eudes that is not supported by the information provided.

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