General Notes

The following is excerpted from a post to SGM, 30 Jul 2000, by Todd A Farmerie:

From: Todd A. Farmerie (farmerie@interfold.com)
Subject: Re: Adelaide d'Anjou (was Tiburge d'Orange)
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2000/07/30

TatjanaAV wrote:
>
> >Blanche appears to have been more of a nickname.  She is better known as
> >Adelaide, wife of Stephen of Gevaudan, Raymond of Toulouse, Louis V of
> >France, and William of Provence.
>
> So... This Adelaide was indeed married to Raymond de Toulouse? I've seen this
> in only one account--all others do not have Raymond in the genealogy at all
> (Guillaume III is recorded as the son Raymond III Pons de Toulouse and Garsinde
> de Rouergue).

Yes.  This was only recently rediscovered.  There is a surviving charter in which Guillaume names his wife Emma and mother Adelaide, and there is every reason to think this was the same Adelaide, known to have married "Count Raimond".  The chronology is aufully long to have William a son of Raymond Pons as well, and the near-contemporary Roda Codex gives Raymond Pons no son William, but does give him a son Raymond.  These make it evident that a reworking is in order.

> When were Adelaide's parents married? I've seen it as 937, when
> she was supposedly born in 930, and has Guillaume III in 947.

I don't think there is enough information to provide such a date. Certainly both of them you give are nothing more than guesses, and need to be adjusted.  As to William's birth, this date is wrong, based on his mistaken placement as son of Raymond Pons.  A more recent guess is about 975.

> Who are ALL of her children (with the correct fathers)?

Stasser gives her the following:

by Etienne de Brioude:
1. Pons de Gevaudan
2. Bertrand de Brioude
3. Etienne de Brioude
4. Ermengarde/Humberge, Countess of Auvergne
5?. daughter, wife of Herbert of Troyes

by Raymond:
6. Guillaume Taillefer
7?. Toda/Adelaide, Countess of Besalu (I question this one)
8?. Letgarde

by Guillaume II of Provence:
9. Guillaume III
10. Constance, Queen of France

taf