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- b.~ 1055 in Venables, Normandy, France d.> 1086
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- b.~ 1085 in venables, Normandy, France
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- b.~ 1105 in Venables, Normandy, France d. in Kinderton cum Hulme, Cheshire, England
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- b.~ 1130 in Kinderton cum Hulme, Cheshire, England
- b.1150 in Kinderton cum Hulme, Cheshire, England