




- b.~ 1010 in venables, Normandy, France




- b.~ 1050 in Venables, Normandy, France



- b.~ 1085 in Venables, Normandy, France


- b.1112 in West Hall, High Legh, Cheshire, England

- b.~ 1133 in West Hall, High Legh, Cheshire, England
- b.~ 1160 in West Hall, High Legh, Cheshire, England