TITL Garner, Lorraine Ann "Lori" PUBL P.O. Box 577, Bayview, ID 83803 Her sources included, but may not be limited to: Burke's Landed Gentry, Burke's Dormant & Ext inct Peerage, Burke's Peerage of American Presidents, Debrett's Peerage, Oxford histories & " numerous other reference works" very good to excellent, although she has a tendency to follow Burke's Hardcopy notes of Lo ri Garner Elmore. MEDI Letter TEXT Aubrey de Vere, a monk, no parents NCP "OXFORD"; HE IS NOT SON OF ALPHONSO,COUNT OF GHESNES