PED OF AUGUSTINE H. AYERS ALIA Renaud de Roucy /Ct de Reimes/ _FA1 PLAC Seigneur de Roucy, Comte de Rheims. TITL Ahnentafel for Margery Arundell AUTH Marlyn Lewis PUBL 08 Oct 1997 MEDI Manuscript"Ancestral Roots. . ." (151:19) states: "He is called the 8th son of HERBERT I I, Count of Vermondois, but is not so given by Pere Anselme; though Anselme does give Hugh, A rchbiship of Rheims, as a son of HERBERT II (Saillot, cit.)