• General Notes

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  TITL Garner, Lorraine Ann "Lori"
  PUBL P.O. Box 577, Bayview, ID  83803
  Her sources included, but may not be limited to: Burke's Landed Gentry, Burke's Dormant & Ext inct Peerage, Burke's Peerage of American Presidents, Debrett's Peerage, Oxford histories & " numerous
  other reference works"
  very good to excellent, although she has a tendency to follow Burke's
  REPO
  Hardcopy notes of Lori Garner Elmore.
  CALN
  MEDI Letter
  DATA
  TEXT Does not show his parents
  _FA1
  PLAC Rose in the service of King Henry I due to efficiency & ability.
  _FA2
  PLAC King's administrator in the West Midlands.
  _FA3
  PLAC Sheriff of Herefordshire & Shropshire by close of Henry I's reign.
  _FA4
  PLAC Acceded: Ewyas, Hereford.
  _FA5
  PLAC Sheriff of Hereford, Salop.PAYN FITZ JOHN (son of JOHN 'MONOCULUS' Monoculus and (w of J ohn Monoculus) --- died in 1137.  "SYBIL de Lacy = Payn fitz John (ob. 1137)
  ---  W E Wightman, *The Lacy Family in England and Normandy, 1066-1194*,
  genealogical chart following p 260.
  From same, p 175, 177-178:  "Payn fitz John and Sybil de Lacy were not allowed to inherit th e whole of the honour.  Henry I seems to have taken the
  opportunity provided by the succession of an heiress to reduce in size a dangerously large ba rony, and to ensure that Payn, useful royal servant though he was, should not become too powe rful by
  adding all the Lacy fee to his own not inconsiderable estates.  During the latter half of He nry I's reign, Payn fitz John was a prominent figure in the West Midlands.  It has long bee n thought that
  he was the sheriff of Herefordshire and Shropshire at the close of the reign.  It is also we ll known that he appeared in company with Miles of Hereford in the Pipe Roll for 1129-30 in s uch a way as
  to imply that the two of them had been holding something very like a general eyre in Staffor dshire, Bloucestershire, and Pembrokeshire.  Payn's origins are not so well known.  They affo rd a good
  illustration of the way in which a younger son of comparatuley obscure origins could rise t o a position of considerable importance under Henry I.  This obscurity was only comparative :  all that can
  be said of his father John 'Monoculus' is that he was not an important member of the baronag e.  A measure of his respectability -- or rather acceptability in the eyes of the rest of his
  contemporaries -- is to be found in the marrige of his sons, Payn, a younger son, married th e Lacy heiress.

Details of Payn's family with Sybil de Lacy