Earl of Gloucester, Ralph de Monthermer (styled)

Birth Name Earl of Gloucester, Ralph de Monthermer (styled) 1a 2a 3 4a
Also Known As Earl of Hertford, Ralph de Monthermer (styled) 1b 3 4b
Gramps ID I0810
Gender male

Events

Event Date Place Description Notes Sources
Nobility Title [E1190]     Sir
 
Death [E1191] 1325-04-05    
5a 2b 1c 4c

Families

    Family of Earl of Gloucester, Ralph de Monthermer (styled) and Cts of Gloucester, Joan of Acre Plantagenet [F0554]
Married Wife Cts of Gloucester, Joan of Acre Plantagenet [I2637] ( * 1272 + 1307-04-23 )
   
Event Date Place Description Notes Sources
Marriage [E28181] JAN 1296/97    
1d 6a 7a 2 3 4d
  Children
Name Birth Date Death Date
Lord Monthermer, Thomas de Monthermer [I1195]1301-10-041340-06-24

Narrative

[SUSANNA KEENE.FTW]

Styled Earl of Gloucester & Hertford *jure uxoris* and for the
next decade administered the estates with the king's daughter.
After Joan's death, his rights to the estates and title lapsed,
and he was thenceforth treated as an ordinary baron. His
children by Joan of Acre were likewise excluded from the
inheritance, and had no future connection with the Clares,
aside from a daughter, Mary, who was married in 1307 to Duncan,
son and heir of Duncan, earl of Fife, and Joan, the Red Earl's
daughter by his first marriage to Alice de Lusignan.

--- Michael Altschul, *A Baronial Family in Medieval England:
The Clares, 1217-1314*, Baltimore MD (Johns Hopkins Press)
1965. p 38-39:
After Joan's death, his rights to the estates and titles of the
earldoms of Gloucester & Hertford lapsed.
Created Lord Monthermer.
Member of the King's household bef his secret marriage to the
King's daughter.

Narrative

Records not imported into INDI (individual) Gramps ID I0810:

Line ignored as not understood Line 14257: 2 SOUR @S085410@
Skipped subordinate line Line 14258: 3 DATA
Skipped subordinate line Line 14259: 4 TEXT Date of Import: Aug 7, 2000

 

Attributes

Type Value Notes Sources
REFN 11709
 

Pedigree

    1. Earl of Gloucester, Ralph de Monthermer (styled)
      1. Cts of Gloucester, Joan of Acre Plantagenet [I2637]
        1. Lord Monthermer, Thomas de Monthermer [I1195]

Source References

  1. Frederick Lewis Weis: The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215 : The Barons Named and Some of [S13024]
      • Page: Line 17B, p. 21
      • Page: Line 17B, p. 21
      • Page: Line 17B, p. 21
      • Page: Line 17B, p. 21, m 1297
  2. Brian Tompsett, Dept of Computer Science: University of Hull Royal Database (England), Author Address: [S13227]
      • Page: Earl of Hertford
      • Page: Other sources say died 1305, Stammtafeln say died 1307.
  3. Michael Altschul: A Baronial Family in Medieval England: the Clares 1217-1314 [S4124]
  4. SUSANNA KEENE.FTW [S85410]
      • Source text:

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  5. Europèaische Stammtafeln [S11227]
      • Page: d 1307
  6. Ed Mann: Mann Database, Recipient: J.H. Garner, soc.genealogy.medieval, [S12163]
      • Page: aft 1295
  7. David Faris: Plantagenet Ancestry of 17th Century Colonists, Pages: 324 [S12485]
      • Page: 1st ed, p 125 "Hankford", no date