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Adalbert III, d. 1048, Count de Longwy, Duke of Upper Lorraine.
(Albrecht) Adalbert Herzog v.Oberlothringen * 10?? + 1048 father : Gerhard v.Metz mother: Gisela v.Metz marriage/union 1: Ermesin de v.Longwy? Stephania v.Longwy?
From - Sun Feb 14 18:48:05 1999
From: jparsons@@chass.utoronto.ca (John Carmi Parsons)
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Date: 14 Feb 1999 10:49:51 -0800
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Michel Bur's _La Formation du comte' de Champagne_, p. 129, sugg ests the following:
Adalbert or Albert, duke of Upper Lorraine and lord of Longwy d . 1048, husband of Clemence de Foix fl. 1035, was the son of Ger ard count of Metz and his wife Gisella. (Adalbert was thus a br other of Gerard, who succeeded him as duke of Upper Lorraine 104 8-70 and is the ancestor of all later dukes of Lorraine and th e present house of Habsburg-Lorraine).
Bur believes that Adalbert's parents, Count Gerard of Metz and G isella, were first cousins. Gerard was the son of a Count Adalb ert d. bef. 1030 and his wife Judith (no family), while Gisell a was the daughter of this Count Adalbert's brother Count Gerar d of Metz fl. 1030 by his wife Eve, daughter of Count Sigfroi o f Luxembourg and Hedwig, who belonged to the family of the count s of Ardennes.
Bur makes the brothers Adalbert d. bef. 1030 and Gerard fl. 103 0 sons of a count Richard or Richer of Metz fl. 968-86. Miche l Parisse's _Noblesse et Chevalerie de Lorraine_ (1982), however , notes another Count Gerard in this region in the last part o f the 10th century and suggests that either Richer or Gerard cou ld have been the father of Adalbert d. bef. 1030 and Gerard fl . 1030. (Some authorities state that this Adalbert d. 1033 and G erard sometime between 1021 and 1033, and add to their famil y a sister, Adelaide, wife of Count Henry of the Speyergau d. 98 9 and by him mother of the Emperor Conrad II.)
Parisse, building on earlier work by Maurice Chaume and Leon Van derkindere, takes the line further back by making either Count R icher or Count Gerard a son (or sons) of a Matfried/Matfroi, so n of Count Adalbert (of Metz?) d. 944 by Liutgarde, daughter o f Count Wigeric of the Bidgau. This Adalbert d. 944 is known a s the brother of Bishop Bernouin/Barnouin of Verdun fl. 928-39 . Parisse and others agree in making Adalbert d. 944 and Bernoui n sons of a yet earlier Count Matfroi of Metz fl. 897, d. ca 93 0 (some say in 926) and his wife Lantsind, a sister of Bishop Da don of Verdun fl. 880-923. Matfroi husband of Lantsind was brot her of Abbot Richer of Prum, later bp of Liege 920-45, and o f a Count Gerard d. 910, husband of Uda of Saxony the widow of K ing Zwentibold of the Germans.
Parisse does not extent this line any further, but Chaume et al . make Matfroi husband of Lantsind the son of a Count Matfroi fl . 867 (d. by 882?), who was in turn son of a Count Matfroi of th e Eiffelgau fl. 843-59 and perhaps as late as 867. Said Count M atfroi of the Eiffelgau was the son Count Matfroi of Orleans (d . 836) by NF, daughter of Count Leuthard of Paris, a son of th e well-known Count Begon-Conrad of Paris (d. 816) by a first wif e named Guiburg (NOT by Begon-Conrad's second wife Alpais, who w as an out of wedlock daughter probably of Louis the Pious, thoug h also perhaps of Charlemagne himself according to some authorit ies.)
Either Chaume or Vanderkindere suggested that Matfroi d. 836 ha d a sister Ava, wife of Count Hugh of Tours d. 834, and mother o f Adelaide wife of Robert the Strong d. 866. That same Matfroi' s wife's sister, another daughter of Leuthard of Paris, marrie d Count Eudes of Orleans d. 834 and was presumably mother of Erm entrude, wife of Charles the Bald. Like the pre-Capetians fro m the time of Robert the Strong, then, the line of counts believ ed to be ancestors of the dukes of Lorraine probably benefited f rom their female relatives' marriages.
Schwennicke, vol. 6 table 129, follows the above but gives desce ndants of the Count Gerard d. 910 by Uda of Saxony.
(signed)
John Parsons