Geoffrey I De Say Lord Of West Greeenwich 
Geoffrey I De was born before 1135 in West Greenwich, Kent, England.1 Geoffrey I De's father was William De Say and his mother was Beatrice De Mandeville. He had a brother named William De. He was the younger of the two children. He had two half-brothers named Richard and William. He died on May 19th, 1214 in West Greenwich, Kent, England.1 General Notes
Geoffrey; born probably by 1135; involved in financial transactions and law suits against his cousins and nephew by marriage Geoffrey Fitz Piers to gain the lands of the Mandeville Earls of Essex; married 1st Alice, daughter of Hugh Maminot and widow of Ralph de Cahaines; married 2nd Alice or Adeliza (born after 1163; died in or after 1214), daughter of 1st Earl of Oxford by his 3rd wife Agnes, and died between 1212 and 1214, having by his 1st wife had [Geoffrey], with and eldest son (William, died by 1 Jan 1198/9?) and a youngest (Ingram, in Ireland with brother Geoffrey). [Burke's Peerage]
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Following copied from Tom Aiken, World Connect db=rootsnva, rootsweb.com:
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Geoffrey de Say . . . was born probably not later than 1135, and possibly earlier." (CP-XI-465) The Says were closely associated with the Mandeville earls of Essex, for Geoffrey's mother was a sister of the first Earl. "He appears as a witness to a charter of Earl William de Mandeville, br. of Earl Geoffrey, before 1166, and a charter of Henry II, executed at Winchester (1176-81), granting to Earl William de Mandeville all the land [in Normandy] which Robert de Say had rightfully given him." (Ibid) Much of the latter part of Geoffrey de Say's life was devoted to a lawsuit against Geoffrey FitzPiers over the estate of Earl William de Mandeville, which suit continued beyond the life times of the two parties. "He m. 1stly, Alice, widow of Ralph de Cahaines, and da. of Hugh Maminot. He m., 2ndly, Alice, da. of Aubrey (de Vere), 1st Earl of Oxford. . . . He was alive in 1212, but dead in 1214. Alice surv. him and was living in 1214." (Ibid)
Geoffrey; born probably by 1135; involved in financial transactions and law suits against his cousins and nephew by marriage Geoffrey Fitz Piers to gain the lands of the Mandeville Earls of Essex; married 1st Alice, daughter of Hugh Maminot and widow of Ralph de Cahaines; married 2nd Alice or Adeliza (born after 1163; died in or after 1214), daughter of 1st Earl of Oxford by his 3rd wife Agnes, and died between 1212 and 1214, having by his 1st wife had [Geoffrey], with and eldest son (William, died by 1 Jan 1198/9?) and a youngest (Ingram, in Ireland with brother Geoffrey). [Burke's Peerage]
Ancestral File Number:<AFN> FK4G-BN
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Ancestor Pedigree Chart
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- b.~ 1106 in Sawbridgeworth, Bishop's Stortford, Hertfordshire, England d.Aug 1144 in Killed Attacking Burwell Castle, Cambridgeshire, England
- b.< 1135 in West Greenwich, Kent, England d.19 May 1214 in West Greenwich, Kent, England
- b.1105 in Manneville, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France d.19 Apr 1197 in Rickling, Essex, England
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Geoffrey I De were married in a religious ceremony before 1153 in 2nd Husband 1St Wife.1
1 Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999 @ 2555
Further source/citation:
The Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999 @ 16a-1
Further source/citation:
The Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999 @ 16a-1
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