UNKNOWN, William 1 2 3 4 5a 6

Birth Name UNKNOWN, William
Gramps ID I582811959
Gender male
Age at Death about 43 years

Events

Event Date Place Description Notes Sources
Birth about 875    
 
Death 918    
5b
Nobility Title     I, of Aquitaine "Le Pieux"
 

Parents

Relation to main person Name Relation within this family (if not by birth)
Father Martel, Carloman [I582805379]
Mother Franks, Chotrude Of [I582811937]
    Brother     Count Of Paris, Gerard [I582811965]
    Sister     Princess Of Austrasia, Rotrude [I582811958]
         UNKNOWN, William [I582811959]

Families

    Family of UNKNOWN, William and Von Hornbach, Waldrat [F533086792]
Married Wife Von Hornbach, Waldrat [I582804675]
   
Event Date Place Description Notes Sources
Marriage about 770 Toulouse, France  
 
  Narrative

_FREL Natural
_MREL Natural
REFN 1277
_FREL Natural
_MREL Natural
REFN 1277
_FREL Natural
_MREL Natural
REFN 1277
_FREL Natural
_MREL Natural
REFN 1277
CHAN13 Sep 2003

  Children
  1. De Toulouse, Bertha [I582804885]

Narrative

Name Prefix:<NPFX> Duke
Name Suffix:<NSFX> I, of Aquitaine "Le Pieux"

K7179wt

Also Known As:<_AKA> William /d'Autun/
Name Suffix:<NSFX> Duke
Some historiesshown him as Judiarch of Narbonne and Exilarch of Bagdad, and secretly a prince of the house of David. This theory derives from Arthur Zuckerman's book, "A Jewish Princedom in Feudal France, 768-900" (New York, 1972), the thesis of which is not accepted by all historians. Regardless, William was a very impressive individual about whom the largest body of heroic poetry in medieval France, the"Saint William cycle" of chansons de geste, developed in the centuries following his death. According to Pierre Bétourné d
Haucourt in"Héraldique et Génealogie, 1981, p.363: Guilhem, Margrave of Toulouse,later monk at Gellone, canonisedas St. William of the Desert (St.Guilhem du Désert), * ca. 752, +812. The remains of the monastery where he resided and which was named after him (Saint-Guilhem-le-Désert) were transported to New York and re-built in the Cloisters complex of the Metroploitan Museum of Art earlier the 20th century. Additionally, David H. Kelley identifies him as the exilarch Natronai, both are questionable, especially in view of the Roman destruction of Jersalem and it's genealogical records in 70 CE. Although it should be noted that Charlemagne did bring back a Jewish official to Germany and this is supposed to be the father of Guillaume.

Randy Jones <randyj2222@@yahoo.com> identifies his father as Thierry or Theuderic d'Autun and his mother as Alda de Francia. There is no supporting evidence for this, so I am going with the limited data as above and that of the Endfield-Bryant Genealogy. JCT 12/23/2000

DATE 5 MAY 2000

OCCU Count of Autun ...
SOUR COMYN4.TAF (Compuserve) says ABT 770;
al7fl.abts.net/green-page/greenged.html says ABT 770, France;
SOUR COMYN4.TAF (Compuserve) says ABT 822, Gellone;
al7fl.abts.net/green-page/greenged.html says 822, France;
Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 234 says 812/813;
St. Guillaume I Courtnez (David) of Toulouse - COMYNI.GED (Compuserve), #1398
; William, Count of Toulouse, Margrave of Septimania (Narbonne) - Royalty for
Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart p. 234; Marquis of Septimania; liv 790 -806 -
p. 235; Isaac de Toulouse - COMYN4.TAF; "Short Nose or Hooked Nose" aka Isaac
[David] Count Toulouse, Gellone, Marquis of Septimania, Guillaume I Courtnez
DAVID (Saint)- al7fl.abts.net/green-page/greenged.html;

OCCU Count of Autun ...
SOUR COMYN4.TAF (Compuserve) says ABT 770;
al7fl.abts.net/green-page/greenged.html says ABT 770, France;
SOUR COMYN4.TAF (Compuserve) says ABT 822, Gellone;
al7fl.abts.net/green-page/greenged.html says 822, France;
Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 234 says 812/813;
St. Guillaume I Courtnez (David) of Toulouse - COMYNI.GED (Compuserve), #1398
; William, Count of Toulouse, Margrave of Septimania (Narbonne) - Royalty for
Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart p. 234; Marquis of Septimania; liv 790 -806 -
p. 235; Isaac de Toulouse - COMYN4.TAF; "Short Nose or Hooked Nose" aka Isaac
[David] Count Toulouse, Gellone, Marquis of Septimania, Guillaume I Courtnez
DAVID (Saint)- al7fl.abts.net/green-page/greenged.html;

DATE 5 MAY 2000

OCCU Count of Autun ...
SOUR COMYN4.TAF (Compuserve) says ABT 770;
al7fl.abts.net/green-page/greenged.html says ABT 770, France;
SOUR COMYN4.TAF (Compuserve) says ABT 822, Gellone;
al7fl.abts.net/green-page/greenged.html says 822, France;
Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 234 says 812/813;
St. Guillaume I Courtnez (David) of Toulouse - COMYNI.GED (Compuserve), #1398
; William, Count of Toulouse, Margrave of Septimania (Narbonne) - Royalty for
Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart p. 234; Marquis of Septimania; liv 790 -806 -
p. 235; Isaac de Toulouse - COMYN4.TAF; "Short Nose or Hooked Nose" aka Isaac
[David] Count Toulouse, Gellone, Marquis of Septimania, Guillaume I Courtnez
DAVID (Saint)- al7fl.abts.net/green-p

Pedigree

  1. Martel, Carloman [I582805379]
    1. Franks, Chotrude Of [I582811937]
      1. Count Of Paris, Gerard [I582811965]
      2. Princess Of Austrasia, Rotrude [I582811958]
      3. UNKNOWN, William
        1. Von Hornbach, Waldrat [I582804675]
          1. De Toulouse, Bertha [I582804885]

Ancestors

Source References

  1. GEDCOM File : ~AT44.ged [S545686264]
  2. GEDCOM File : Livermore.ged [S545686267]
  3. GEDCOM File : ~AT91.ged [S545686265]
  4. Ancestral File (R) [S545686182]
  5. Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999 [S545686191]
      • Page: 48-16
      • Page: 48-16
  6. GEDCOM File : ~ATB4.ged [S545686266]