General Notes

Whether his wife was Walter de Caen's daughter or Thomas Becket's aunt or someone else, Hervey was succeeded by his son Hervey Walter, whose marriage was of considerable consequence to the family that was taking root.  For his wife was Maud de Valognes, sister in law of Ranulph de Glanville, the most powerful of all Henry II's subjects; and Ranulph, who took an avuncular interest in the upbringing of Maud's children, so advanced them that even by the end of the 12th century the family tree was no mean sapling.

At least one of those children, Hubert Walter, was outstanding. Contemporary records give us some idea of him: he was tall and stately, not exactly gifted with the eloquence of one who had kissed the Blarney Stone and perhaps a bit too attentive to idle rumours, but loyal, resolute, witty and wary and wise withal.

I suppose he is commonly remembered as having been mainly instumental in raising the enormous ransom demanded by the Emperor Henry VI for Richard Couer de Lion.  But Hubert had other claims to fame: he governed England ably and far better than King Richard would have done; he even laid some of the foundations of democracy as we know it.  He enriched the See of Canterbury, he founded monasteries, he was learned in the law and altogether his achievements were legion; but above all, he was immensely prudent and immensely powerful.

His prudence is best illustrated by the fact that, without surrendering any of his integrity, he managed to enjoy and retain the confidence of Henry II, Richard I, and John--three kings of widely contrasting characters and predilections.

As to his power and prestige: Hubert had been Bishop of Salisbury and had accompanied Richard on the Third Crusade; he was then Primate, Chief Justiciar, Papal Legate and Chancellor--a sort of Pooh-Bah of his day--and when Hubert died in 1205, John paid him the oblique compliment: "Now for the first time am I King of England".  That was what led to Magna Carta ten years later.  [Butler Family History]

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Curt Hofemann, curt_hofemann@@yahoo.com, in a post-em, wrote:

of Amounderness, Lancashire, and West Dereham, Norfolk [Ref: Watney p187]

from the 1911 version of the Encyclopedia Britannica:
Hervey Walter, son of this Hervey, advanced his family by matching with Maude, daughter of Theobald de Valognes, lord of Parham, whose sister Bertha was wife of Ranuif de Glanville, the great justiciar, "the eye of the king." When Ranulf had founded the Austin Canons priory of Butley, Hervey Walter, his wife's brother-in-law, gave to the house lands in Wingfield for the soul's health of himself and his wife Maude, of Ranulf de Glanville and Bertha his wife, the charter, still preserved in the Harleian collection, being witnessed by Hervey's younger sons, Hubert Walter, Roger and Hamon.