Plantagenet, Ida (Isabel)

Birth Name Plantagenet, Ida (Isabel) 1a 2a 2b 3a 4 5a 6a 5
Gramps ID I28708
Gender female

Events

Event Date Place Description Notes Sources
Birth [E37422] 1154 of Norfolk, England  
2c 2d 5b 6b

Parents

Relation to main person Name Birth date Death date Relation within this family (if not by birth)
Father Earl of Surrey, Hamelin Plantagenet de Anjou [I28709]11301202-07-05
Mother de Warenne, Isabel [I2824]11371203-07-12
         Plantagenet, Ida (Isabel) [I28708] 1154
    Sister     de Warenne, Maud Plantagenet [I28710] 1154 1212
    Sister     de Warenne, Suzanne [I25202] 1166
    Brother     Earl of Warren & Surrey, William Plantagenet [I32661] 1166 1240-05-27

Families

    Family of King of England, Henry II Plantagenet de Anjou and Plantagenet, Ida (Isabel) [F11133]
Married Husband King of England, Henry II Plantagenet de Anjou [I28660] ( * 1132/3-03-05 (Julian) + 1189-07-06 )
   
Event Date Place Description Notes Sources
Marriage [E58354] about 1176    
4a 2e 2f 5c
Partners (Primary) [E58355] about 1176    
4 2g 5d
  Children
Name Birth Date Death Date
Earl of Salisbury, William Longespée [I28754]11761225/6-03-07 (Julian)
    Family of Earl of Norfolk, Roger le Bigod and Plantagenet, Ida (Isabel) [F11179]
Married Husband Earl of Norfolk, Roger le Bigod [I29488] ( * 1150 + 1221-08-02 )
   
Event Date Place Description Notes Sources
Marriage [E58398] 1185    
7a 1b 8a 2h 5e 6c
  Children
Name Birth Date Death Date
le Bigod, Margaret [I2870]
Earl of Norfolk, Hugh le Bigod [I28707]11861224/5-02-18 (Julian)
le Bigod, Mary [I33592]1196

Narrative

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Some sources say that it was Hamelin's daughter who married Roger de Bigod.
The complete Peerage, that can usually be trusted makes no reference to this
marriage, and nor does Weir.

Pedigree

  1. Earl of Surrey, Hamelin Plantagenet de Anjou [I28709]
    1. de Warenne, Isabel [I2824]
      1. Plantagenet, Ida (Isabel)
        1. King of England, Henry II Plantagenet de Anjou [I28660]
          1. Earl of Salisbury, William Longespée [I28754]
        2. Earl of Norfolk, Roger le Bigod [I29488]
          1. le Bigod, Margaret [I2870]
          2. Earl of Norfolk, Hugh le Bigod [I28707]
          3. le Bigod, Mary [I33592]
      2. de Warenne, Maud Plantagenet [I28710]
      3. de Warenne, Suzanne [I25202]
      4. Earl of Warren & Surrey, William Plantagenet [I32661]

Ancestors

Source References

  1. Garner, Lorraine Ann "Lori" [S287874]
      • Page: Warenne
      • Source text:

        Isabel de Warenne, highlighted

      • Source text:

        no date

  2. large-G675.FTW [S286834]
      • Source text:

        Date of Import: 14 Mar 1999

      • Source text:

        Date of Import: 16 Mar 1999

      • Source text:

        Date of Import: 14 Mar 1999

      • Source text:

        Date of Import: 16 Mar 1999

      • Source text:

        Date of Import: 14 Mar 1999

      • Source text:

        Date of Import: 16 Mar 1999

      • Source text:

        Date of Import: 14 Mar 1999

      • Source text:

        Date of Import: 14 Mar 1999

  3. 11615-2.ftw [S7587]
      • Source text:

        Date of Import: 21 Feb 1999

  4. Farmerie, Todd A. [S287657]
      • Source text:

        "A decade ago, Charles Evans brought to the attention of the greater genealogical community a pair of charters in which William Longespee specifically names his mother as "Countess Ida". In light of this clear documentary evidence of the name of his mother, all other speculation (which had no such documentary basis) must be rejected. Who was "Countess Ida"? Recently the speculation has been published that she was the future wife of Roger Bigod, Earl of Norfolk, and supporting this identification is the fact that William Longespee was appointed guardian for Roger Bigod, who would have been his nephew. Questions of Ida's identity aside, there can be no doubt that Ida was mother of William Longespee.

  5. large-G675.FTW [S261374]
      • Citation:

        Brøderbund WFT Vol. 2, Ed. 1, Tree #1990, Date of Import: 18 Jul 1996

      • Citation:

        Brøderbund WFT Vol. 2, Ed. 1, Tree #1990, Date of Import: 18 Jul 1996

      • Source text:

        did not marry

      • Source text:

        did not marry

      • Page: line 121A p 108
  6. large-G675.FTW [S468232]
      • Citation:

        Brøderbund WFT Vol. 2, Ed. 1, Tree #1822, Date of Import: 17 Jul 1996

      • Citation:

        Brøderbund WFT Vol. 2, Ed. 1, Tree #1822, Date of Import: 17 Jul 1996

      • Page: p 199
  7. Brian Tompsett, Dept of Computer Science: University of Hull Royal Database (England) [S283806]
      • Source text:

        no date

  8. Ed Mann: Mann Database [S285952]
      • Source text:

        m of Roger le Bigod & Ida, no date