Ralf III , sn de Conches de Toeni

 Ralph IV , sn de Conches de Toeni
Ralph IV , sn de Conches was born in 1102.  He died at the age of 24 in 1126.

 Roger IV (de Conches) , Lord Flamstead de Toeni
Roger IV (de Conches) , Lord Flamstead was born in 1160.  He died at the age of 48 on December 29th, 1208 in of Flamstead,Hertfordshire,England.