UNKNOWN Joanna 
UNKNOWN was born in of London,Middlesex,England.1 She was an only child. She died in Aberconwy,Arllechwedd Uchaf,Caernarvonshire,Wales.1 General Notes
Cause of Death:<CAUS> Chill turned into fever.
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ES III:356b credits John with two illegitimate children by Agatha de Ferrers
- Joan and Richard.
"Magna Charta Barons" by Charles H. Browning, copyright 1969 (I'm unsure of the overall reliability of this source), gives Joan's mother as Agatha de Ferrers, daughter of Robert de Ferrers, fourth Earl of Derby.
The journal "The Plantagenet Connection" has published an ahnentafel of Elizabeth Plantagenet, wife of Henry VII, which gives Joan's mother's name as Constance (Clementia) of Brittany. This is the same Constance who was married to Geoffrey Plantagenet, John's brother. Considering the well-known animosity between Constance and John and her attempts to press her own son Arthur's interests as far as the throne of England were concerned (whom John murdered with his own hands) the relationship seems unlikely. The Constance that history portrays does not seem as one who John could easily seduce or coerce into bed.
Others suggest her mother was Clemantina, the wife of Henry Pinel.
Penman, Sharon Kay. "Here Be Dragons". New York: Ballatine Books, June
1993.
Penman, Sharon Kay. "Falls The Shaow". New York: Ballatine Books, May
1989.
Lewis, Marlyn (compiler for "The Plantagenet Connection"). "Ahnentafel for
Elizabeth Plantagenet (Wife of Henry Tudor): Generations 1-15". Arvada, Colorado:
Heliotrope Communications, 1996.
Wurts, John C. "Magna Charta". Copyright 1945.
Browning, Charles H. "Magna Charta Barons". Copyright 1969.
Adams, Arthur and Frederick Weis. "Magna Charta Sureties". Copyright 1955.
Sir J. E. Lloyd's "History of Wales", Vol.II
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UNKNOWN were married in a religious ceremony in 1205 in Saint Werburgh Benedictine Abbey,Chester,Chestershire.1
UNKNOWN and William "Black Will" de Braose were married in a religious ceremony about October 1228.1
Family Notes
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One interesting story from Joan and Llywelyn's marriage: about 1230/1231,
Llywelyn returned home unexpectedly to find Joan alone in their bedroom with
William de Braose. This story is recounted in "Here Be Dragons" and one
other "purely historical" source. William was later hanged on Llywelyn's order.
From "The Genealogist" article by Wm. Addams Reitwiesner: He was discovered in Joan's chambers, accused of being her lover, and promptly
and publicly hanged. While the story that William and Joan were lovers has
been generally accepted, the Annals of Margam (in T. Gale, ed , Historiae
Britannicae et Anglicanae Scriptores XX (Oxford, 1687), 2-18, [anno] MCCXXX)
implies that the "intimacy" was devised by Llywelyn to avenge himself on
William for political injuries inflicted not only by William but by the entire
Braose family; the execution was hailed by the Welsh as a vindication of a
blood-feud against the Braoses dating from at least 1176. Indeed, shortly
after the execution Llywelyn wrote to William's widow Eva and to William
Marshal, Earl of Pembroke, Eva's brother, stating, in effect, that so far as
he was concerned, the intended marriage between Llywelyn's son Dafydd and
Eva's daughter Isabella could go forward as planned, and that he could not
have prevented the Welsh magnates from taking their vengeance. See J. Goronwy Edwards, Calendar of Ancient Correspondence concerning Wales (Board of Celtic Studies of the University of Wales, History and Law Series, 2)(Cardiff, 1935), pp 51-52, nos. XI.56a, 56b. The marriage in fact took place three months later.
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Further sources/citations:
Here Be Dragons, University of Hull Royal Database (England), The Royal Bastards of Medieval England, Ahnentafel for Margery Arundell, Magna Charta Sureties, 1215 @ line 149B pp 155-156, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America bef 1760 @ line 236, p 201, line 27, Britain's Royal Families: The Complete Genealogy @ p 71
Further sources/citations:
Here Be Dragons, University of Hull Royal Database (England), The Royal Bastards of Medieval England, Ahnentafel for Margery Arundell, Magna Charta Sureties, 1215 @ line 149B pp 155-156, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America bef 1760 @ line 236, p 201, line 27, Britain's Royal Families: The Complete Genealogy @ p 71
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