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PLEASE NOTE: If you do not see a GRAPHIC IMAGE of a family tree here but are seeing this text instead then it is most probably because the web server is not correctly configured to serve svg pages correctly. see http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/SVG:Server_Configuration for information on how to correctly configure a web server for svg files. ? My mother (Joan Mather) remembers this family as "Uncles" and "Aunts", although clearly they where not. However, as the only other Dittmer families in the area, and with DNA matching, they are certainly related. There are several events tieing the families together. Information on this Henry Dittmer comes from his marriage to Ann. He married in Liverpool, so could be a possible father of my Peter Henry Dittmer. After the parents died, the family moved to Livepool and Illinois, USA. Ann Luter (or Suter) was a widdow when she married Henry. Doris and Margaret may have been sisters, as after Doris died, Chris Dittmer maried the younger Margaret. A Lutheran Dittmer family from Pattersen, Hannover Germany (but 80 miles SW of Diersbüttel). Births registered at Kirkdale Sculcoates, Hull connection ? Dittmer family with Albertina born in Hull No other BMD in Hull (also MMN = TATE in Sunderland) DNA match to CKD and myself in dwittag's Linked Tree. No other WITTHOFT links. Connections to Bispingen and Barnstedt (6 miles West & East of Diersbüttel) Know each other: Probably brothers as both fathers are Henry/Heinrich (farmers).  
Where in West Derby together in 1892/3 where John and Harry were born.
Believed to have traved to Liverpool together on the British Queen in April 1872.
Henry lived with Catherine Dorothee Sophie Dittmer after his wife died.  This was quite likely his spinster step-sister and closest living relative. Representative of: Made a declaration on 29 Oct 1926 to correct the birth details for Dorris.  Was this her relation? Lives with: Matthew and Lizzie Walker lived at 34 Bankburn-road Liverpool until 1949, when he died at The Eye and Ear Infirmary, Liverpool Funding of: Catherine D.S. Dittmer was living with Charles at 42 Athol Road in 1939 (before she died in 1942).

DITTMER Catherine Dorothee Sophie otherwise Dorothea Catherine Sophia of 34 Bankburn Road, Liverpool 13 spinster died 14 July 1942 Probate Liverpool 5 August to Charles August Dittmer shipwright.  Effects £212 9s. 4d. Funding of: WALKER Anna Elizabeth of 7 Aslsey-crescent Liverpool 12 widow died 14 December 1952 at Broadgreen Hospital Liverpool 14 Probate Liverpool 2 March to Christopher Dittmer shipwright. Effects £1656 16s 11d Funding of: DITTMER Christopher of 12 Eaton Road North Liverpool 12 died 16 January 1964 as Newsham General Hospital Liverpool 6 Administration Liverpool 18 February to Dora Margaret Latimer married woman. £1,610. Funding of: DITTMER Harold George of 39 Halsey-crescent Liverpool 12 dies 22 April 1952 at Broadgreen Hospital Liverpool 14 Administration Liverpool 2 July to Christopher Dittmer shipwright. Effects £443 12s 9d. Representative of: Made a declaration on 29 Oct 1926 to correct the birth details for Dorris.  Was this her relation? Representative of: JHF Diittmer was witness to JHC Dittmer's marriage of 1874, and probably brother (with such similar names). Parent Parent Biological Child Biological Child Biological Child Biological Child Biological Child Biological Child Biological Child Biological Child Parent Parent Biological Child Biological Child Biological Child Parent Parent Parent Parent Parent Parent Biological Child Parent Parent Parent Parent Biological Child Parent Parent Biological Child Biological Child Biological Child Parent Parent Parent Parent Biological Child Biological Child Parent Parent Biological Child Biological Child Parent Parent Biological Child Biological Child Biological Child Parent Parent Biological Child Biological Child Biological Child Biological Child Biological Child Biological Child Biological Child Biological Child Biological Child Biological Child Parent Parent Parent Parent Parent Parent Parent Parent Biological Child Parent Parent Biological Child Parent Parent Biological Child Parent Parent Parent Parent Biological Child Biological Child Parent Parent Parent Parent Parent Parent Biological Child Biological Child Parent Parent Biological Child Biological Child Parent Parent Biological Child Biological Child Parent Parent Biological Child Biological Child Parent Parent Biological Child Parent Parent Biological Child Parent Parent Biological Child Parent Parent Biological Child Biological Child Biological Child Biological Child Biological Child Parent Parent Biological Child Biological Child Biological Child Biological Child Biological Child Biological Child Biological Child Parent Parent Parent Parent Parent Parent Parent Parent Parent Parent Parent Parent Parent Parent Biological Child Parent Parent Biological Child Biological Child Biological Child Biological Child Biological Child Biological Child Parent Parent Biological Child Parent Parent Biological Child Biological Child Biological Child Biological Child Biological Child Parent Parent Biological Child Parent Parent Parent Parent Biological Child Parent Parent Parent Parent Biological Child Biological Child Biological Child Biological Child Biological Child Biological Child Biological Child Biological Child Marriage (eleven children) 13 Dec 1874 (Reformed German Church, Renshaw St, Liverpool) Marriage (five children) 1920 (Liverpool) No more children Marriage 1953 (L'pool) No more children Marriage 1927 (L'pool) No more children Marriage (two children) 1949 (L'pool) No more children Marriage 31 Jan 1918 (New Ferry) No more children Widowed (two children) 1st ~1865 (in Germany ?) Marriage (two children) Q2-1905 (L'pool) No more children Marriage (three children) ~1837 (Germany) Marriage (a child) 1949 (L'pool) No more children Marriage (two children) 1951 (L'pool) No more children Relative of: According to his nationalisation application Henery visited his sister Dorothee for 2 weeks in Germany about 1901.
At the time of his nationalisation application in 1926, Dorothee was the only living sibling (parents also dead). Lives with: Was Boarder with Christopher Dittmer in 1871, so probably brother or close relation. Lives with: Joan and Robert Reece lived with Joan's parents (Chris and Elizabeth Dittmer) in 1955 when Val was born. Lives with: July Dittmer (24 but indexed as 34) was lodging with Christopher Dittmer at Epsom Street, Liverpool Relative of: Possibe cousins (DNA connection) Lives with: Henry Dittmer was recorded as living at 34 Bankburn Road, Tuebrook in 1950 before he died.  Anna also lived at Tuebrook, Liverpool.
It appears Henry lived with his niece until she died in 1942, and then took over the house until he died in 1950. Lives with: In 1891, Peter Gellerson (47) and Henry Dittmer (23) were lodging at 89 Opic Street, Liverpool
Both Nat. Br. Subjects and Sugar Refiners from Hanover, so appear to be together. 1881 - 1917 Christopher (Fred) Frederick Dittmer 36 36 Born Christopher Frederick, and known as Fred.

In 1891, Living at 45 Ascot Street, (Scotland ward), Liverpool (aged 3 months).

In 1901, Living at 63 Lambeth Road, Kirkdale. Son Will was baptised in Kirkdale in 1905.

Fred was living in Asser Road, West Derby in 1900's and was an Assistant Steward on the Verdi in 1917.  When visiting NY, he was recorded as British (Race and Nationality) from Liverpool and 5'4" tall and 140 lb in 1917.

In 1911 he was married, an assistant in a shop selling tea and butter and living at 1 Albany Road, Prescot.

In 1914-15, Frank Dittmer, 33, born Liverpool was a crew member, "Assistant Steward", on the Westmeath.  Later, aged 34 he was Assistant Steward on the Canada.

9 Aug 1917, Frederick (36) as recorded arriving at New York from Buenos Aires on the Verdi. 

In 1818, 1819, 1921, Christopher and (mother or wife?) Margaret "Dittmar" are listed on the Liverpool Electoral Registers at 42 Alton Road, together with (brother) Charles Dittmar.

Buried (or memorial) in a war grave 22 Aug 1917: 
DITTMER, CHRISTOPHER FREDERICK (36), Assistant Steward, SS Verdi, Mercantile Marine, died 22/08/1917, Son of Cathaine Maria Margaret Dittmer, and the late John Henry Christopher Dittmer; husband of the late Maud Seymour Dittmer. Born at Liverpool, Memorial: Tower Hill Memorial
1875 - 1941 Anna (Mary) Marie Christina Dittmer 65 65 Living at 45 Ascot Street, (Scotland ward), Liverpool in 1881 and 1891.

Living at 63 Lambeth Road, Birkdale in 1901.

Val Hawkyeard (RootsWeb) has her as Ann Marie Christine (b.1868).

Mary was still single, aged 35 and with her parents in 1911. 

Anna Marie died 14 May 1941 and is buried with her parents at Kirkdale.
1878 - 1938 George William Dittmer 59 59 Living at 45 Ascot Street, (Scotland ward), Liverpool in 1881 and 1891.

Living at 63 Lambeth Road, Birkdale in 1901.

 
1882 - 1952 Anna (Lizzie) Elizabeth Dittmer 70 70 Living at 45 Ascot Street, (Scotland ward), Liverpool in 1891.

Living at 63 Lambeth Road, Birkdale in 1901. 93 Stanley Road Kirkdale in 1911 with parents.

Mum’s family and Lizzie and Mat where “quite close”.  Mum used to go them every Christmas when they were young.  They would make a fuss of Mum and Harry (Cliff was not there or was just very quiet?) as they had no children of their own.  Liz would make trifles laced with rum and with 6d coins hidden in them.  Although mum didn’t like the rum, she would eat it to get the 6d.
Lizzie has a husky voice and grey-white hair.  Mat used to chew egg shells to help his rheumatism.  They lived in an old terraced house in Liverpool in the 1920's.

Elizabeth was 28 and single in 1911, so married quie late in life (about 46).
1884 - 1919 Wilhelm (William) Heinrich Dittmer 34 34 In 1901, Wilhelm married Margaret Ann Houghton at St Thomas Eccleston, St Helens.    

There is a birth record and he's on the 1891 census (aged 6), but cant find any Wil* Ditt* anywhere in UK.  However, there was William Augistin Dittmer (1881-1950), son of John, who died at 3 Stanley Street, Liverpool,  aged 69 and buried at Everton.

1886 - 1939 Johann (Henry) Henrich Richkard Dittmer 52 52 In 1891, Living at 45 Ascot Street, (Scotland ward), Liverpool.

In 1901, Living at 63 Lambeth Road, Kirkdale.

In 1914, Henry Dittmer, aged 28 born Liverpool, address 157 Stanley Road, was a passage worker on the Steam Ship Essex, sailing from Liverpool.  This was his first ship.

TonyB has discovered that Henry emigrated to Australia between 1901 and 1915.  He married Agnes Boyd in 1915 and they adopted one child, a girl.
1888 - 1964 Hermann (Chris) Hinrich Christopher Dittmer 75 75 In 1891, living at 45 Ascot Street, (Scotland ward), Liverpool.

In 1901, living at 63 Lambeth Road, Birkdale.

In 1911, living at 93 Stanley Road, aged 22, a carpenter for the White Star Line (so probably a ship builder or merchant seaman).

Val Hawkyeard (RootsWeb) has him as Herman Henry Christopher (b.1889), who was her grandfather.

In 1921, Herman Henry Christopher, Elizabeth, Margaret and 5 others are on the census at West Derby, Liverpool. 

In 1939, Herman was doing heavy work as a Shipwright.

In 1951, when Harold died (ie killed), his effects were left to Christopher Dittmer shipwright.  This presumably was his father.  Hermann's wife also records him as a shipwright in her 1961 probate record.  Elizabeth Ann Walker (sister) also left her estate to him (£1656 in 1952).
1896 - 1970 Charles August Dittmer 74 74 Living at 63 Lambeth Road, Birkdale in 1901 with both parents and older brothers and sisters.

In 1911, Charles was living in West Derby, aged 14.

In 1918, Charles Dittmer ID No.371292 was recorded as a British Merchant Seaman (CR10 Card)

In 1939, Catherine D.S. Dittmer was living with Charles at 42 Athol Road (before she died in 1942).  Charles was a "Shipwright (heavy worker)"

Charles's older sisters Anna Marie Christina, who died in 1941 and Catherine Dorothee Sophie who died in 1942 left Charles August Dittmer £610 and £212 respectively. Both probate records show that Charles was a shipwright.

Charles travelled on the Portland Star from Vancouver, British Colombia, Canada in Jan 1855, via Curaco back to London. His address at the time was 27 Balmont Drive, L6.

Oct 1870, Charles Dittmer of 4 Clifton Road L13 died (and was cremated 16 Oct 1870)
1892 - 1961 Elizabeth (Lilly) Graham 68 68 Mrs C Ditmer living at 39 Hasley Crescent, West Derby, Liverpool 12. in 1900's

Information from Val Hawkyeard (RootsWeb).
1924 - 2003 Dora Margaret Dittmer 79 79 My mum remembers that Dora spoke with a very posh accent, dressed smart and had dark hair.  After she married Jack, they lived in a bungalow in Blundel Sands, Lancashire.  They had no children of her own.

My mum's family and Dora kept in contact at Christmas.  Dora came to most of the funerals from mum's (Joan Mather's) side of the family.

Dora and Jack moved into sheltered housing at Saxon House, Saxon Road,  Southport before she died.
1927 - 2006 (Marie) Elsie Dittmer 78 78 Joan and Elsie were twins.

Lived at 21 Vineside Road, West Derby, Liverpool

There was an Elsie Rowlands of 30 Central Road, Port Sunlight who may have been her daughter.
1927 - 1996 (Elizabeth) Joan Dittmer 68 68 Joan and Elsie were twins, living in Liverpool.
One (or both) lived in a flat.

My mum remembers that Joan had an ill daughter (whom Mum never met).  Mum exchanged Christmas cards with Joan and had a letter form her about 2001 letting her know her daughter had died.
1910 - 1997 John (Jack) Ernest Latimer 87 87 Johns father was Andrew and mother Janet.  Andrew was much older than Janet.  He was a Chief Steward for the White Star Line, born in Lancaster.  Janet was from Liverpool.

John's mother Janet (a 47 year old Housewife) took John (aged 14) and his sister Janet Hamilton Latimer (aged 12) to Montreal,  Canada in 1924.  At the time they were living at 32 Thorndale Rd, Waterloo, Liverpool.  They sailed on the Megantic (White Star Line), a smaller sister ship to the Titanic, lainched 3 years earlier.

Had an open sports car.
Had a Wallrus moustash

In 1939, John was single, an Insurance Inspector living with his widowed mother Janet at 4 Marine Terrace, Crosby.

Later after he was married, John (known as Jack) lived in a bungalow at Blundel Sands.
1879 - 1949 Matthew (Mat) Walker 70 70 My mother (Joan Mather) remembers Mat.  He used to dress up as Father Christmas for the family.  His wife "Lizzie" would put 6d coins in the Christmas Trifle for the children to find.

He had bad rhumatism 1920's when my mother knew him.
1933 Pamela (Betty) Elizabeth Dittmer Betty Dittmer, an old friend of my mothers, is my 3rd cousin.  Betty was good friends with Elsie and Harry Dittmer of Devonshire Road (my grandparents).

Was known as Betty in her youth.  Mary Newman was her mother, who came from County Meath in 1914 to go into service in a 'big house' in Liverpool  They lived in Knotty Ash most of her life.

Family emigrated to NZ in 1966, possibly first living in Victoria, Australia
1927 - 1988 Frederick (Fred) Joseph Dittmer 60 60 Live in Queens Drive, Tuebrrook, Liverpool in early/mid 1900's.

Living at 19 Pilch Lane, Knotty Ash, Liverpool in late 1900s
D. ~2003 Joan Rainford Living at 19 Pilch Lane, Knotty Ash, Liverpool in late 1900s. ~1955 - ~2001 Anne Dittmer 46 46 1877 - 1940 Alice Mary Williams 63 63 Alice Mary Williams was the only daughter of a family of 7 (six brothers).  One of her brothers, Frederick Williams, was killed on 7 July 1916 in the 13th Battalion Cheshire Regiments battle at La Boiselle.  Unmitigated disaster 243 other ranks killed, 8 officers dead, Fredericks body was never found and he is remembered at Thiepval.

George and Alice were married in St. Mark, New Ferry.  They lived in their own house at 9 Boundary Road, Port Sunlight.  Alice was a “perfect lady”.

Alice had a Blue Valse from Germany which survived the bombing of their house in Port Sunlight.  It was passed through the Dittmer family, and I now have this valse.
1868 - 1942 Catherine (Doris or Dora) Dorothea Sophie Dittmer 73 73 "Doris" Living at 44 Epsom St., Liverpool in 1871 and then named Dorothy, living at 45 Ascot Street, (Scotland ward), Liverpool in 1881, but left by 1891.

She is recorded as Dora Dittmer in 1891, 23, in domestic service.  She is recorded as sister-in-law (as is the other servants), but this seems to be an error.

She is recorded as Dora??? S in 1901, 33 working as a servant (domestic waitress).

Dorothea died a spinster.
1883 - 1913 Maud Seymour Lindop 30 30 Maud's parents were Enoch William Lindop (1859-1906) and Elizabeth Lindop (nee Seymore), born 1860.  They married at Edge Hill, Liverpool in 1880.
1847 July Dittmer Was Boarder with Christopher Dittmer in 1871, so probably brother or close relation.

Didn't appear on any other census or BMD search.
D. 1929 Heinrich Heuer 1911 - 1913 George H Dittmer 2 2 1923 - 1987 Robert (Bob) Reece 63 63 Living at 12 Eaton Road, West Derby, Liverpool in late 1900's and with Joan's parents in 1955. George Parry 1867 - 1950 Johann (Henry) Peter Heinrich Dittmer 82 82 17 Aug 1867, Johann Peter Heinrich Dittmer (or Henry), the son of Henry a farmer was born in Diersbüttel, Rehlingen, Germany and went to school at Rehlingen (a 40 minute walk).

In 1874, when Johann Heinrich Christoph Dittmer married Magdalena Heuer, Johan’s father was also Johann Heinrich, farmer (deceased), so Chris and Henry are very likely to be brothers.

In 1886, Henry arrived in the UK from Germany, probably travelling from Hanover to Hull.  There is a Heinrich Dittmer arrived at Hull 12 Aug 1854 on the Britannia from Hamburg, but this Heinrich was a ships cook.  Another Heinrich arrived at Hull from Hamburg in 1887, but this Heinrich appears to have continued his journey to the USA.

Christian Westpfahl and Sophia Duncacke had come to Liverpool about 1882 but only married in Liverpool March 1888.  The 1883 birth records for daughter Bertha shows he had already married Sophia, presumably in Germany before he came to England.  Friederike Westphal who Henry was to marry in 1892 was his landlord’s daughter, but she wasn’t in England in 1891 at the time of the census.

In 1891, Henry Dittmer (23 and single) and Peter Gellerson (47) from Hanover were lodging at 89 Opic Street, North Everton, Liverpool.  The head of house was Christian Westpfahl and his wife Sophia (46 & 39) and daughters Betha (8) and Merri (5).  Both men were labourers at the sugar refinery; hard, hot and sometimes dangerous work!

28 Feb 1892, Henry Dittmer (24), son of Henry a farmer, married Friedericke Westphal (22), daughter of Christian Westphal a sugar refiner at All Saints, Liverpool.  Both were living a 2 Great Nelson Street.  Their marriage witnesses were Charles and Bertha Heinz. 

Ather they married Henry and Freda lived at Opic Street, North Everton, Liverpool.

In 1893, the family were living at 104 Opic Street, North Everton when Harry was born. 

In 1894, Henry was listed in Kelly's directory as a "Sugar Boiler", living at 104 Opic Street, South Side.

In 1897, the family were living at 104 Opic Street when son Harry started school at St Peter's COE School, Sackville Street, Everton, aged 4.

About 1901 Henry returned to Germany for 2 weeks to visit his sister (her name not disclosed) in Diersbuttel, Germany (which is also where Henry went to public school).

In 1901, Henry and Friederike (33 & 31) were living at 4 Brunswick Road, Drypool, Hull, Yorkshire with their son Harry (aged 8).  Henry was a labourer at the Oil Mill (probably the historic Isis Oil Mill and Silo at Morley Street next to the River Hull).

In 1911, Henry and Frederika (aged 42 & 41 and both German subjects) and were living with their son Harry (18) at 56 Mossman Street, Windhill, Shipley, Yorkshire.  They had been married 19 years and only had the one child.  Henry was a labourer on a Sewage Farm for the municipal corporation.

Around 1914 to 1918, during WW1, Henry was interned on the Isle-of-Man.

In 1921, Henry and Fredericka were at Idle, North Bierley, West Yorkshire.

In April 1927, after the war and living in the UK for 41 years, Henry applied to be a UK citizen.

In Sep 1939, Henry (DOB 17 Aug 1865), a retired Grease Boiler, and Friederike D (DOB 15 Feb 1870) were living at No.6 Doctor Lane, Idle.  This was a small stone terraced house with a shared WC at the end of the terrace. Freda died 20 Oct (just after the register was taken).

In 1939, after Freda’s death, my mother recalls that Henry and son Harry came to live in Devonshire Road, Upton for a while.  However, there wasn’t much space for him there so he went to live in lodgings at Glebe Park Rd (near Arrowe Park) for a while

About 1942 Henry moved to 34 Bankburn-Road, Tuebrook where he lived with some Dittmer relatives, possibly two old aunts.  My own DNA confirms we are related to the Liverpool Dittmer family.

30 July 1950 Peter Henry Dittmer (otherwise Henry) of 34 Bankburn-Road, Tuebrook, Liverpool 13 died at 42 Belmont Road, Liverpool 6.  He left his estate of £231 to his son "Harry Dittmer (the elder) engineer".

1853 - 1927 Katharina (Margaret) Margretha Magdalena Heuer 74 74 Aka. Cathaine Maria Margaret Dittmer.

Living at 45 Ascot Street, (Scotland ward), Liverpool in 1881 and 1891.

Was 21 when she married Chris Dittmer.  Her father was George, a labourer.

In 1901, living at 63 Lambeth Road, Kirkdale.

Katharine (Margaret) died on the 7th March 1927. 

In 1818, 1819, 1921, Christopher (her son) and Margaret "Dittmar" are listed on the Liverpool Electoral Registers at 42 Alton Road, together with (youngest son) Charles Dittmar. However, Christopher died at sea in 1917

10 Mar 1927, Catherine M M Dittmer, aged 73 of Allon (or Alton) Road, Tuebrook was buried in the Dittmer family grave at Kirkdale.
 
1840 - 1872 Magdalena (Dorris) Dorothea Elizabeth Heuer 32 32 Known as Dorothea or Doris

In 1871, "Doris" and Christopher (30 & 26) are living at 44 Epsom St., Liverpool (Scotland Ward). With them are daughter Doris (3) and three lodgers July Dittmer (24) and Johann and Lewis Meyer (24 & 22) all from Hannover.

A Hannover brth of Catharine Dorothea Elisabeth Dittmer (Lutheran) of 26 Oct 1867 has the father as Johann Heinrich Christoph Dittmer and mother Anna Dorothea Dittmer, so this is another possible daughter if Anna Dorothea is the same person.

The birth certificate for her daughter Dorris shows the mothers name as Magdalena Dorothea Elizabeth Heuer, so when she died, it appears that J H Dittmer may have married her sister.

Dorothea Dittmer is buried at Anfield with her infant son George Frederick and also Margaret Elizabeth Dittmer from Johann's second marriage, but each in different graves (grave 1261, 1176 and 145).
1845 - 1912 Johann (Chris) Heinrich Christoph Dittmer 67 67 "Johann Heinrich Christoph Dittmer" aka "John Henry Christopher Dittmer" (or simply Chris) was living at 44 Epsom St., Liverpool in 1871.  He had July Dittmar and Johann and Lewis Meyer bording with them, also from Hannover.

Living at 45 Ascot Street, (Scotland ward), Liverpool in 1881 and 1891.

In 1901, Christopher was living at 63 Lambeth Road, Kirkdale.  He appears in the 1894 Kelly's directory as a sugar worker at the same address.

In 1911, living at 93 Stanley Road, West Derby in 1911, aged 66.

13 Aug 1912, "John Henry C Dittmer" aged 67 of 93 Stanley Road was buried at Kirkdale Cemetery (NC, Private Grave Section 5,76).  His wife Catharine of 42 Alton Road, Tuebrook joined him in 1927

NOTE: John Henry Dittmer (another?) arrived in England Apr-1872 on the British Queen from New Messow.  He was travelling with two other Dittmers including Heinrich Dittmer.  This John Henry died Q4-1902 in West Derby, Liverpool, aged 51 (so born 1851).

1840 - 1872 Magdalena (Dorris) Dorothea Elizabeth Heuer 32 32 Known as Dorothea or Doris

In 1871, "Doris" and Christopher (30 & 26) are living at 44 Epsom St., Liverpool (Scotland Ward). With them are daughter Doris (3) and three lodgers July Dittmer (24) and Johann and Lewis Meyer (24 & 22) all from Hannover.

A Hannover brth of Catharine Dorothea Elisabeth Dittmer (Lutheran) of 26 Oct 1867 has the father as Johann Heinrich Christoph Dittmer and mother Anna Dorothea Dittmer, so this is another possible daughter if Anna Dorothea is the same person.

The birth certificate for her daughter Dorris shows the mothers name as Magdalena Dorothea Elizabeth Heuer, so when she died, it appears that J H Dittmer may have married her sister.

Dorothea Dittmer is buried at Anfield with her infant son George Frederick and also Margaret Elizabeth Dittmer from Johann's second marriage, but each in different graves (grave 1261, 1176 and 145).
1853 - 1927 Katharina (Margaret) Margretha Magdalena Heuer 74 74 Aka. Cathaine Maria Margaret Dittmer.

Living at 45 Ascot Street, (Scotland ward), Liverpool in 1881 and 1891.

Was 21 when she married Chris Dittmer.  Her father was George, a labourer.

In 1901, living at 63 Lambeth Road, Kirkdale.

Katharine (Margaret) died on the 7th March 1927. 

In 1818, 1819, 1921, Christopher (her son) and Margaret "Dittmar" are listed on the Liverpool Electoral Registers at 42 Alton Road, together with (youngest son) Charles Dittmar. However, Christopher died at sea in 1917

10 Mar 1927, Catherine M M Dittmer, aged 73 of Allon (or Alton) Road, Tuebrook was buried in the Dittmer family grave at Kirkdale.
 
Marriage (two children) m. 1959 No more children Marriage (six children) ~1837 (N Germany) Abode: Diersbüttel +Possibly more children Marriage (two children) Q1-1927 (Birkenhead) No more children Marriage (a child) 1984 +Possibly more children Marriage 1943 (L'pool) No more children Marriage 26-Feb-1860 (L'pool) Marriage (a child) Widowed (six children) 5 Jun 1829 (Kirchtimke, Hannover) Widowed (a child) 1856 (London) Marriage 13-May-1855 (L'pool) Marriage (a child) Marriage (a child) 23-Jul-1854 (L'pool) XTo be completed Marriage 1915 (Australia) XTo be completed Marriage (two children) 1901 (Eccleston) No more children Marriage (nine children) 6 Dec 1805, Elsdorf, Hannover No more children Marriage (three children) 27 Apr 1860 (Hannover) +Possibly more children (a child) XTo be completed (a child) XTo be completed (a child) (two children) Marriage 7 Mar 1873 (Hannover) XTo be completed Marriage 15 Nov 1850 XTo be completed Marriage 5 Dec 1850 Widowed 3 Jul 1842 Marriage 5 Mar 1846 XTo be completed Marriage (two children) 13 Feb 1846 XTo be completed Marriage 7 Jan 1830 XTo be completed Marriage 1 Oct 1847 XTo be completed Marriage 12 Feb 1836 XTo be completed Marriage (a child) 29 Apr 1842 Marriage (four children) 1 May 1864 (Hannover) Marriage (a child) Hull +Possibly more children Committed relationship and separation Marriage 1871 (Sculcoats) Marriage (six children) 7 Mar 1878 (Lincoln, Illinois, USA) XTo be completed Marriage (two children) Augusta, Eau Claire, USA : Hermann married in Liverpool in 1854.&#32; He is assumed to be related to the other Liverpool Dittmers. Other: Mother and both children buried at Anfield, three different graves. 1892 - 1896 John Hermann Dittmer 3 3 1895 - 1895 Catherine Dittmer 1936 Martin David Beard Marting parents were Reginals Beard and Irene Hampson Tony David Beard Andrea Elizabeth Beard ~1821 - <1874 Johann Heinrich Dittmer 53 53 Henry (or Heinrich), a farmer, was named as the father for both Chris and Henry Dittmer.

Henry may have marrried twics, as his children span almost 30 years.
~1821 - >1867 Katherina Marie Magdalene Kuhlmaun 46 46 (Johann) Heinrich Dittmer records his mother as "Katherina Marie Magdalene Dittmer nee Kuhlmaun (i.e. Kuhlmann), Hanoverian" (the "Johann" and the "Hanoverian" is crossed out and replaced by "German"), although clearly from Hannover (as recalled by family). 1905 - 1988 Frederick (Will) William Dittmer 83 83 My mother belived he may have moved to 7 Halsey Crescent in mid/late 1900's

In 1917, Frederick Dittmer arrived at Ellis Island from Liverpool.

22 Aug 1919, William Dittmer (DOB 27 Jun 1905) was discharged from Lister Drive Council School, Tuebrook (reason given as as now over school age).

In 1926, after his parent had died, Frederick William Dittmer (and his uncle Charles) were still living at 42 Alton Road.

Will (but mum doesn’t remember May coming) would occasionally visit their house in Devonshire Road.  He was a nice chap.  Very genuine.  He would bring them wooden blocks to burn on the fire.  These may have come from his job (on the railways maybe?)
1897 - 1990 Mary (May) Elizabeth Newman 93 93 Tony Beard's grandmother was Mary Newman from County Meath, Ireland.  The family had the same piece of land for 400 odd years,  Mary came to the UK in 1914.

My mother reemembers the parents of Fred and Betty as Will and May (most definately she says).  This is confirmed by her grandson, Tony.

May was very loud and Irish, Catholic and rather fat.
She would always make you welcome, going into the back to boil eggs to make sandwiches and used a fine bone china tea service.  She made very nice pastry pies.

May was very upset when her daughter Betty moved away.  May thought she would never see her daughter again!
Stephen (Steve) J Dittmer 1921 - 1952 Harold George Dittmer 30 30 Harold was living with his parents at Halsey Crescent in 1950

Harold Dittmer died 22 April 1952, aged 30, and was buried with his uncle and aunt Matthew and Elizabeth Walker at Kirkdale Cemetery.
1881 Reginald Mitchell Banks Reginald Mitchell Banks and Maurice Davidson made a declaration on 29 Oct 1926 to correct the birth details for Dorris.  See scanned image.

Reginald was the son of Sir William Mitchell Banks, and was an undergraduate as Oxon in 1901, and was the lawyer making the declaration of change of Doris's birth certificate in 1926. He was a barrister at law in 1911.
1922 - 1929 Charles W Dittmer 6 6 Valerie L Reece David J Parry Christopher M Parry 1870 - 1870 George Frederick Christopher Dittmer Child of Chris and Doris Dittmer that died an infant, but I believe this is the only Dittmer family in Liverpool to whom this child could belong. 1901 - 1901 James Stanley Dittmer 3m 3m 1877 - 1878 Margaret Elizabeth Dittmer 4m 4m David Hawkyard 1897 - 1954 Margaret Garrity 57 57 Possibly the daughter of James, a dock labourer, and Margaret. 1834 Henrich (Henry) Dittmer 1835 Ann Luter Ann Luter (or Suter on Marriage record) Timothy Luter <unknown> 1799 - 1848 Claus Dittmer 49 49 Claus's father was Hinrich Dittmer (see marriage)

Claus wasted no time. After Hibbel died in Aug 1841, Claus partnered with Anna, who was already about 2 months pregnant when they married in April 1842.  However, their first child didnt survive (died 5 Nov 1842)..
1808 - 1841 Hibbel Gerken 33 33 Hibbel's father was Cord Gerken D. 1859 Ernest Emile Becker Ernest Emil is the only recorded death in Liverpool, so this may the Becker that Ann was married to. 1829 Anna Dittmer After her parents died, Anna (and brother Heinrich) came to Liverpool, where they both married. Claus Heins John Heins <unknown> 1857 George Becker 1828 Hermann Dittmer Herman's father was Jurgen Dittmer, a farmer.

In 1854 Hermann ws living at 27 Kent St, Liverpool when he married Dothea.
~1830 Dothea Haeseler Dothea Haesler's father was David Haseler, a Chemist. 1884 Maurice Davidson Maurice was a Medical Practitioner (MD), living in London in 1911, but this is probably the preson correcting the birth certificate of Doris in 1926. 1871 - 1939 Annie Boyd 68 68 1881 - 1933 Margaret (Maggie) Ann Houghton 52 52 In 1901, Wilhelm married Margaret Ann Houghton, daughter of John and Annie Houghton at St Thomas Eccleston, St Helens.

6 June 1902, Margaret Ann Dittmer was listed (admitted) on the Liverpool Workhouse (entry no 5883), possibly due to the death of her second child.
1856 Herman Dittmer Herman (24, Clerk) from Germany was boarding at 30 Percy Street in Liverpool in 1881, with several other Germans including Herman Meyer.

There is no evidence Herman is related to any of the other Liverpool Dittmers, other than they are all related and from Hannover State.

Herman, is the likely son of Hermann Dittmer (a tailor) and Dorthea Haseler who married in Liverpool in 1852. He may be part of the larger Dittmer family that came to Liverpool from Germany in the 1800s.
<1817 - >1874 George Heuer 57 57 <unknown> ~1850 - <1926 Johann (Fred) Heinrich Frederich Dittmer 76 76 AN ASSUMPTION - Johann Heinrich Frederich Dittmer was a witness at Chris's second mariage of 1874.  The father was already deceased, so this is possibly an older (or oldest) brother.

Johann Heinrich Friedrich Dittmer married Wilhelmine Luise Friederike Grambow
1779 - 1850 Júrgen Dittmer 71 71 1786 - 1852 Margarethe Albers 66 66 ~1860 - >1926 Dorothee Ahrens nee Dittmer 66 66 Heinrich visited his sister (not named) in Diersbuttel for two weeks in about 1901.  This was his only ever return visit to Germany.

Dorothee is confirmed as only surviving sibling of Henry (excluding any living in the UK) in 1926.  She is described as "Dorothee Ahrens H D, Widow, of Hagen, near Lüneburg, Hanover. She may be a different sister!
1838 Johann Christoph Dittmer 1836 Anna Elizabeth Lüllan 1863 - 1864 Johann Heinrich Dittmer 7m 7m 1866 Heinrich Friedrich Christoph Dittmer 1869 - 1870 Johann Frederick Dittmer 10m 10m ~1810 Hans Peter Lüllan ~1810 Catherine Elizabeth Lüllan ~1810 Hans Frederick Dittmer ~1810 Margarethe Dorothea Dittmer ~1810 Hans Christian Dittmer ~1810 Margarethe Dorothea Dittmer 1839 Dorothee Elizabeth Dittmer 1866 - 1868 Heinrich Wilhelm Julius Detmer 2 2 Heinrich Wilhelm Julius Detmer Johann Christoph Heinrich Detmer Dorothea Louise Elisabeth Detmer 1869 Rosine Elise Caroline Detmer Rachael A Hawkyard 1838 - 1871 Georg Heinrich Christoph Dittmer 32 32 1840 - <1927 Peter Heinrich Georg Dittmer 87 87 ~1840 Katharine Karoline Brauel 1815 Júrgen Hinrich Dittmer 1818 Frederick Dittmer 1808 Catharina Margaretha Dittmer 1822 Maria Dittmer 1807 - 1807 Anna Elizabeth Dittmer 9d 9d 1813 Johann Peter Dittmer 1820 Claus Hinrich Dittmer There are two other Claus Hinrich Dittmers, sons of Claus and Jacob that married at Scheeßel, so this may be the wrong marriage.

Claus Hinrich Dittmer married Anna Catharina Schleesselmann at Scheeßel, which is next to Elsdorf where Claus was baptised.
~1818 Christina Sophia Fick ~1822 Johann Jürgen Detjen 1813 - 1845 Anna Margaretha Heinz 32 32 ~1813 Christina Sophia Bösch ~1815 Catharina Margaretha Beckmann Father: Johann Peter Beckmann (or Lutermann)

Indexed Catharina Margaretha Lutermann (probabbly in error) for birth of Johann Peter
~1808 Johann Hinrich Burfeind ~1820 Anna Catharina Schleesselmann 1811 Anna Elizabeth Dittmer ~1811 - 1870 Paul Glinsmann 59 59 1847 - 1848 Catharine Maria Dittmer 1 1 1849 Johann Peter Dittmer 1831 - 1881 Cord Dittmer 50 50 Cord was named after his grandmother, Hibbel's mother.

Cord emigrated to the Coatsburg, Illinois, US where in 1857 he married Anna Christine Ackerman at Adams, Ilinois.  He died in 1881.
1839 - 1840 Catharina Dittmer 11m 11m 1837 Gretle Dittmer 1841 - 1841 Catharina Dittmer 2m 2m 1817 - 1846 Anna Wendeler 29 29 Anna's father was Lütje Wendeler, so she must have been a spinster when she married Claus (a Widower) in 1842. 1844 Claus Dittmer Claus was Claus and Anna's second child. An unbaptised child of theirs was buried 8 Nov 1842. 1842 Katharine Dorothee Wedemann Katharine Dorothee Wedemann was 22 when she married Georg Heinrich Christoph Dittmer.  Her father was Peter Heinrich Wedemann 1866 - 1931 Katharine Dorothea Elizabeth Dittmer 65 65 1865 - 1865 Georg Heinrich Christoph Dittmer 12d 12d 1869 - 1873 Emma Wilhelmine Dittmer 3 3 1871 - 1872 Wilhelmine Karoline Dittmer 1 1 1857 - 1946 Johanna (Anna) C Dittmer 89 89 Hannah or Johanna (or maybe Anna Magdalena) Dittmer is an unconfirmed sister or cousin of Henry Dittmer.

Anna Dittmer was born: 24 Jun 1857, Barnstedt, Lüneburg, about 6 miles East of Diersbüttel.  She is probably related to Henry Dittmer of Diersbüttel.  Both Colin Dittmer and I have 10 cM DNA matches to her g-granddaughter, although not a shared connection.

Anna may be Anne Dorothee E Dittmer, born 24 Jun 1857 in Barnstede (see Thorsten Meyer’s tree) so Anne may be the Dorothee his sister.

30 Oct 1862 The family emigrated from Hambourg to the USA on the ship Oder (steerage class).

In 1870, Anna Dittmer (15) was in Augusta, Eau Claire, Wisconsin, USA. She was with assumed parents Friderick  (a shoe maker) and Mary Dittmer (53 & 42) and brother Gustavus (17), all born in Prussia.

13 Oct 1873 Johann Dittmer (16), sailing from Liverpool on the "City of Paris", arrived in New York. She was the daughter of Lorenz and Dorothea Dittmer (46 & 45) and was with 5 other siblings, so this may be a different person.  They also lived in Illinois and are buried at Pleasant Valley, Jo Daviess County.

By 1880, Anna's brother Gustave (27), a boot and shoe  dealer was married to Jennie (20 from Vermont), was still living at Augusta, Eau Claire with his father Ferderick (63) a shoemaker.

Dittmer <female> Schoster 1857 Albertina Dittmer Albertina may have been from Sculcoats, Hull.

Another (Smith) tree has a tie with Richard John Thomas Blackman - TBC
1854 Richard John Thomas Blackman Catherine Penman Married in 1871

Possibly widowed and Maiden Name TATE (TBC)
1902 - 1902 Mary Agnes Dittmer MMN = Houghton 1848 - 1933 Christoph Heinrich Witthoft Jnr 84 84 Christoph Heinrich Dittmer was born at Harpel, Germany

Christoph (or Christopher)'s mother was Margarethe Dorothea Juerges (1804-1860) from Bispingen, Germany.  Bispingen is 5 miles West of Diersbüttel when our Dittmer damily was from.

In 1910, Chris H and Anna C Witthoft (61 & 52) were living at Cedar, Washington, Iowa, USA with their 3 children
1817 Frederick Dittmer 1829 Marie (Mary) Stienhaur Mother Marie Stienhaur, born Barnstedt, Germany on US death record of Anna Witthoft. 1853 Gustav Dittmer 1844 - 1900 Peter Gellerson 56 56 Peter could be a step-father of Henry Dittmer, as living together in 1891.  I have no DNA matches to Gellerson.

In 1891, Peter Gellerson (47) was a Sugar Refiner, living at Opic Street with Henry Dittmer (both lodgers from Hanover).

In 1898 P H Gellerson, aged 50, born Holland (with several other Dutch crew) was on the Killarney based in Liverpool. This is likely another person.

in 1900, Peter Gellerson, aged 52 of Lemon Street is buried at Kirkdale Cemetery in a public grave.
1883 - 1977 Henry John William Witthoft 94 94 Born Logan, Illinois, USA

In 1910, Henry W Witthoft (27) was with parents and Dora M (25) and John M/N (20)

In 1942, Henry John William Witthoft (59) was drafted for WW2. He was 6' tall, Hazel eyes, red hair, 196 lb  and had a rudy complexion.
1885 Dora Witthoft Married name Dora Eckhardt 1890 John Witthoft 1880 - 1967 Katherine (Katie) Witthoft 87 87 Married name Katherine Ropers

Katie married Frank Ropers (1878-1910)
1881 - 1962 Anna Adolphina Witthoft 80 80 Married name Anna Koenig

11 Feb 1906, Anna married  Herman August Koenig
1887 Emma Witthoft Married name Emma Bidwell
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