Carl and Pay were married in a civil ceremony on August 13th, 1921 in Eltham, Taranaki, NZ. Their marriage was annulled on November 12th, 1931. They had a son and a daughter, named Noel and Elizabeth.
May , known as Pay, was born on December 25th, 1905. She died due to natural causes or old age at the age of 88 on July 7th, 1994 in Upper Hutt, NZ. She was buried in Lower Hutt, NZ.