Hugh De SAY
Hugh was born in 1136 in Richard's Castle,Herefordshire,England.

 Lucia De CLIFFORD
Lucia was born in 1141 in Clifford Castle,Clifford,Herefordshire,England.

 Hugh De SAY
Hugh was born in 1161 in Richard's Castle,Herefordshire,England.  He died at the age of 36 in 1197.

 Lucia DE SAY
Lucia was born in 1229 in Ludlow (Richard's Castle),Herefordshire,England.