General Notes

Name Suffix:<NSFX> Lord Of Cottingham
Name Prefix:<NPFX> Seigneur
REFN: 9627
Prisoner 1107 battle of Tinchebrai.
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The following is excerpted from a post to SGM, 7 Sep 200
2 , by Rosie Bevan:
From: "Rosie Bevan" (rbevan@@paradise.net.nz)
Subject: Stuteville of Cottingham
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2002-09-07 03:43:36 PST
2.ROBERT II de Stuteville. Not believed to have held lan
d s in England. A supporter of Robert Curthose with his fat
he r, he was captured at St.Pierre-sur-Dive shortly befor
e th e battle of Tinchebrai. He was married to Erneburga wh
ose p arentage is unknown.
Issue:
- Robert III of Cottingham. See below.
- William. Married to Emma, and held lands in West Yorkshi
r e.
- Roger (sheriff of Northumberland from Easter 1170-East
e r 1185, and castellan of Wark on Tweed)
- John of Long Lawford, Warwickshire. Married to Agnes pos
s ibly da. of Waleran son of Hugh and Matilda.
- Osmund of Weston Colville and Burton Agnes, Yorks. d. b
e f 1172. Succeeded by son Roger.
- NN (soror Robert de Stuteville) wife of Robert de Daville
[Sources : Keats-Rohan, 'Domesday Descendants' p.722-7
2 4 ; Clay, 'Early Yorkshire Charters' v.8, p.2-5]
[And on the identification of Erneburga as daughter of Hu
g h FizBaldric, in a post 9 Sep 2002:]]
Moriarty assumed Ernneburga was fitzBaldric's daughter bec
a use around 1087 some of Hugh FitzBaldric's lands found th
ei r way into Stuteville hands. Moriarty appears unaware th
a t they had been confiscated and there is no evidence to s
up port the assumption that Erneburga was Hugh's daughter
. Oth er major landholders such as the Brus family receive
d porti ons of fitz Baldric lands too. Hugh's known sons-in
-law inc luded Walter de Rivere and Guy de Craon. [K-R Dome
sday Peop le,267-268].
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Robert de Estoteville acquired a great inheritance with h
i s wife, Eneburga, daughter and heir of Hugh, son of Baldr
ic k, a great Saxon thane, and among other lands, had the l
ord ship of Schypwyc, or Skipwic. He left three sons, Rober
t, O smund, and Patrick. [John Burke & John Bernard Burke
, Extin ct and Dormant Baronetcies of England, Ireland, an
d Scotlan d, Second Edition, Scott, Webster, & Geary, Londo
n, 1841, p . 486, Skipwith, of Newbold Hall]
Note: The above source has Patrick de Skipwith descendin
g f rom this Robert.  Burke's Peerage indicates that Patric
k wa s a younger son of this Robert's son (also Robert).
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Curt Hofemann, curt_hofemann@@yahoo.com, in a post-em wrote:
FWIW, Vernon James Watney in "The Wallop Family, and the
i r Ancestry", 1928 (LDS Film 1696491), p935 states he wa
s "l iving 1138".  Unfortunately this was in an early stag
e of m y research when I did not record footnotes to know o
n wha t basis Watney derived the statement.  I say FWIW, be
caus e Watney is like Burke's: caveat emptor.
Research note: Turton gives the mother of Robert De STUTEV
I LLE, Baron of Cottingham & John De STUTEVILLE as Blanch
e d e RIEUX dau of Quesnoc de RIEUX (again: caveat emptor).
Regardez vous,
Curt
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And, in a later post-em, Curt added:
Of this second Robert, Orderic speaks "as a brave and powe
r ful baron, who was a strong partizan of the Duke" (Rober
t C ourt-heuse), "and superintended his troops and fortress
es i n the Pays de Caux."  He also says (817) that d'Estout
evill e was slain fighting against Henry I. at Tinchebrai (
1106) , and not, as other authorities aver, sent over to En
glan d to suffer the doom of life-long captivity. In eithe
r case , the whole of his possessions-which apparently incl
uded Ro ger de Moubray's former barony-were forfeited, an
d grante d to the King's favourite, Nigel de Albini. His wi
fe Ernebu rga, a Yorkshire heiress, whose father, Hugh, th
e son of Ba ldric, had been a great Saxon thane, brought hi
m three sons ; Robert III.; Osmund, who died at Joppa in Pa
lestine; an d Patrick (