• General Notes

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  TITL Garner, Lorraine Ann "Lori"         PUBL P.O. Box 577, Bayview, ID  83803
  Her sources included, but may not be limited to: Burke's Landed Gentry, Burke's Dormant & Ext inct Peerage, Burke's Peerage of American Presidents, Debrett's Peerage, Oxford histories & " numerous other reference works"
  very good to excellent, although she has a tendency to follow Burke's Hardcopy notes of Lor i Garner Elmore.
  MEDI Letter
  TEXT d of Llywelyn Fawr ap Iorwerth
  TITL Here Be Dragons       AUTH Sharon Kay Penman        PUBL Ballantine Books, New York 1985
  Library of J.H. Garner        MEDI Book       PAGE p 258
  TITL soc.genealogy.medieval      MEDI Book      PAGE Chris Moore
  TEXT b 1207
  TITL Some Descents of Llywelyn the Great
  Pedigree Chart (Chart VI) from some book sent by Lori Elmore Garner
  MEDI Book
  TEXT Helen d. of Llywelyn the Great
  TEXT d 1253
  TITL Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America bef 1760
  AUTH Frederick Lewis Weis       PUBL 7th ed Genealogical Publishing, Baltimore 1992
  Same ref source as earlier ed, "Ancestral Roots of 60 Colonists who Came to New England 1623- 1650" ed 1-6
  good to very good       --- J.H. Garner          MEDI Book         PAGE line 236 p 201
  TEXT Ellen or Helen, d of Llywelyn ap Iorwerth & Joan of England
  TEXT d 1253, no place
  CAUS Fever & bleeding after giving birth; child died also.
  _FA1 PLAC Rec'd. manors of Bidford, co. Warwick & Suckley, co. Worcester, as maritigium.
  _MDCL Dark complected & dark hair.

Details of Elen Verch's family with Robert de QUINCY