• General Notes

  [SUSANNA KEENE.FTW]
  
  Earl of Essex.[charlemegne.FTW]
  
  Peter de Ludgershale = Peter the Forester
  
  E-mail from Douglas Richardson :    In a recent posting, referen ce was made to Geoffrey Fitz Piers, Earl of Essex, and to his fa ther, Piers de Lutegareshale.   Since about 1900, historians hav e been modernizing the name Piers as Peter.   Consequently, it i s more appropriate to refer to these men as Geoffrey Fitz Pete r and Peter de Lutegareshale.   As for Peter de Lutegareshale , I have found a reference to him as Peter the Forester and as s uch I presume he held the position as forester of the royal fore st of Ludgershale, Wiltshire.   I imagine with a bit of detectiv e work, Peter the Forester's family and ancestry can be traced .    In addition to modernizing the name Piers to Peter, I als o recommend using the modern spelling of Ludgershale.
  
  As previously pointed out, Peter the Forester's wife, Maud, wa s not a Mandeville.  My research suggests that either Peter or h is wife, Maud,  was a sibling of Roger Fitz Geoffrey and his bro ther, Robert, who were knights and chief tenants of the Earls o f Salisbury.    This would explain the appearance of the names , Geoffrey and Robert, among Peter and Maud's children.  If corr ect, then Geoffrey Fitz Peter, Earl of Essex, obtained his give n name from a grandfather named Geoffrey.
  
  Much more research is required to find all the answers.   I fee l certain that the ancestry of Geoffrey Fitz Peter can be unrave lled if someone has the time and patience to do it.   I'm tire d of copying inaccurate and incomplete information from secondar y sources, especially for this family.[MARSHALL.FTW]
  
  SOURCE NOTES:
  Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great
  Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant.  Gloucester: A
  Sutton, 1982.
  
  Watney, Vernon James, The Wallop Family and their Ancestry, Oxford:John
  Johnson, 1928.  LDS Film#1696491 items 6-9.
  
  Weis, Frederick L, Magna Charta Sureties 1215: The Barons Named in the Magna
  Charta and Some of Their Descendants. 4th Ed. Baltimore: Gen Pub Co, 1991.
  
  Weis, Frederick Lewis, Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists, 6th Edition,
  Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co, 1988.

Details of Pierre de Mandeville's family with Maud de Mandeville

Details of Pierre de Mandeville's family with Maud

Details of Pierre de Mandeville's family with Maud