Johann Daniel Grimm (Grim Grims Grimes Krim Crim)

• Birth Notes
  • http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rgrimmgenealogy/GrimmKiddHistory.html

• General Notes
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    Andreas is probably son of  Johann Daniel Grimm, a butcher,and Anna Eva of Pfalz (N of Ramstein) or a Hans George Grimm and Anna Maria Barbara Korbel of Berwangen, Kirchstadt, Baden.** The stronger candidate father of Andreas (and brother Alexander Grim) is a Johann Daniel Grimm, a butcher, of the Rheinland Pfalz area.
    From the Evangelisch Leistadt, Pfalz, Bayern*, Germany, Johann Daniel Grimm and wife Anna Eva had these children;
    Maria Catherine Grimm christened July 10, 1713
    Maria Agnesa Grim christened 1716
    Andreas Grimm christened July 21, 1718
    Unknown Grimm christened February 16, 1721
    Johanna Sabina Grimm christened March 19, 1724
    Alexander Grimm christened February 7, 1726
    * during the time when Pfalz/Palatinate belonged to Bayern/Bavaria*
    
    From a LDS search using Andreas or Alexander Grim and/or batch number = C973241. For more Bayern Church batch numbers see Bayern:
    
    The fact that the birth year, 1718, matches what we had for our Andreas is, I think, no small coincidence. Historical and geographic reasons also support this Andreas' pedigree. Evangelisch Leistadt is in the Palatinate. Berwangen is not; it is further east and high up against the Swiss border and thus not easily accessible to the critical passage down the Rhine which enabled the Palatinate immigration.
    
    Family tradition says that there were seven Grim brothers who came to America at different times during the early part of the Eighteenth century. **Other sources dispute this 7 brothers claim. It is also supposed that these "brothers" arrived in quick succession and were the following men: Johan Egidus Grim who arrived in 1728 on the James Goodwill (settled in Macungie Township, Bucks County, Pennsylvania
    see swoodbridge.com/family/HansGeorgGrimm/index and http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/2148/grimm3.html
    Hans Jarick Grim and Johan George Grim who arrived in 1733, Andreas Grim or **Andrew Grim,** and Johan Conrad came on the same ship, The Harle, in 1736 (Johan settled in Weisenberg Township, Bucks County, later Northampton County and now Lehigh County, Pennsylvania). Henirich Grim came in 1737 on the Virtuous Grace, and probably Johan Hendk Grim also arrived in 1737 but was sick upon arrival. *Most Germans in the 18th century had "Johan" as their first name. To avoid confusion, they were typically known by their middle names instead. (Taken from the Oath of Allegiance from the Pennsylvania German Pioneers, Vol. 1, pages 155 and 156, Strassberger & Hinkel.) Egidus Grim's father was Hans George Grim of Berwangen. Since it is now believed that these Brothers Grimm were not brothers, and because we are without church records it is doubtful that Egidus's father was also Andreeas'. Andreas or Andrew Grim* and 18 years old, was probably part of the Reformed/Lutheran Movement. He sailed on the Harle in 1736 from Rotterdam, Holland via Cowes, landing in Philadelphia, PA on Sept. 1, 1736. On the Harle, there were 156 men, 65 women, and 167 children.
    *I have seen the name spelled Krim (on one Harle manifest) and Crim and it may be the spelling of the name Grim as Grimm occurred in later years but with some family members never changing.*