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(a child) (a child) (a child) (a child) (a child) (a child) (a child) (a child) (a child) (a child) (a child) (a child) (a child) (a child) (a child) 1090 - 1156 Mabel (Maud) Fitzhammon 66 66 1059 - 1107 Robert Lord of Tewksbury Fitzhammon 48 48 1063 - 1107 Sybil Matilda De Montgomery 44 44 1030 - 1111 Hamon de Crevecoeur 81 81 1036 Maud 1138 - 1232 Maud de Mandeville 94 94 # Note: Maud [mother of Geoffrey Fitz Peter (or Piers), wife of Piers de Lutegareshale], Lady of Costow, co. Wilts. [Ancestral Roots]
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# Note: Maud de Mandeville [daughter of Geoffrey de Mandeville by Rohese de Vere]; married (1) Piers de Lutegareshale; married (2) Hugh de Boclande, living 1176. [Magna Charta Sureties]
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# Note: The following post-em by Curt Hofemann, curt_hofemann@yahoo.com clears up the reason why Maud was mistaken for a daughter of Geoffrey de Mandeville by MCS:
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# Note: Maud. Widow of Piers de Lutegareshale. Mother of Geoffrey fitz Piers earl of Essex [Ref: CP V:116 Table]
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# Note: Maud was not a de Mandeville. This error has been discussed several times on Gen-Medieval:
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    Maud was not intended by this to be represented as Geoffrey's daughter, but this appears to be the genesis of this mistaken affiliation. As has been pointed out, it is clear that Geoffrey Fitz Piers came to hold Mandeville land, as well as the Earldom of Essex, through his wife, who was granddaughter of Geoffrey de Mandeville's sister. This is best seen by the fact that the land and titles descended to Bohun, to the exclusion of Geoffrey's son and male heir, John Fitz Geoffrey, son by a second wife. So, no Mandeville land can be shown to have been held by Piers, or by Geoffrey prior to his marriage; no Mandeville land descended to Geoffrey's (and hence Maud's) heir male; no document has been brought forward which claims Maud, wife of Piers, was a Mandeville; no daughter or sister of an Earl of Essex would have been allowed to marry such a lowly knight as Piers. No, Maud was not a Mandeville. [Ref: TAF 3 Apr 1998]

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    Maud de Mandeville was not daughter of Geoffrey and Rohese. This comes from a misreading of the chart of Essex in CP. She is placed at the same level as Geoffrey's children, but there is no line connecting her with Geoffrey. Likewise, Piers was a local forester, and never would have been given the daughter of someone of Geoffrey's status. Even if it were true, her children would have been immediately elevated in status, but instead, Geoffrey Fitz Piers had to work his way up through the king's household service. He was a "new man", and not the grandson of an Earl. [Ref: TAF 19 Apr 1998]

# Note: TAF = Todd A. Farmerie
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# Note: Also, Bill Marshall , someone I respect as a very thorough reseacher, lists on WorldConnect at:
# Note: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SRCH&db=wtm& surname=A
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    The mother of Geoffrey Fitz Piers was Maud, wife of Piers de Lutegareshale. As far as I have been able to determine, there was never any Maud de Mandeville at this point in the Mandeville pedigree until someone misread CP. I followed back the references cited by Weis/Sheppard Magna Carta Sureties (later repeated in AR7) and they all either say nothing of the sort, or else lead right to the CP Essex article. Nowhere in the text does it mention a Maud other than simply as wife of Piers, and there it does not call her Maud de Mandeville nor provide any evidence of a connection. In the associated chart, (and here's the rub) Piers, Maud, and her second husband are placed under the horizontal line which unites the children of Geoffrey de Mandeville. This would, at first glance, appear to show Maud as Geoffrey's daughter (this applies to Maud, but not Piers or his successor, because Maud is not given a surname). However, a closer look reveals that there is no vertical line dropping down from the horizontal to connect her with Geoffrey: Geoffrey de Mandeville.

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Title: Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999
Page: 159-2
Text: Maud de Mandeville (in error) ,no date given

Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
Page: 246b-27
Text: Maud, Lady of Costow, co. Wiltshire.

Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
Page: V:116 chart 1422 - 1483 Eleanor Poynings 61 61 1392 - 1429 Richard Poynings 37 37 1382 - 1446 Robert Poynings 63 63 D. 1443 Elizabeth Grey (Eleanor) 1355 - 1387 Richard Poynings 32 32 1360 Isabel Grey 1357 Isabel Fitzpayn 1390 Joan De Poynings 1317 - 1368 Michael Poynings 51 51 1321 - 1369 Joan Rokesley 48 48 1355 Agnes Poynings 1298 - 1339 Thomas de Poynings 41 41 1299 - 1346 Agnes Rokesley 47 47 Lucas Poynings 1273 - 1314 Michael de Poynings 41 41 1231 - 1294 Luke de Poynings 63 63 1201 - 1272 Thomas de Poynings 71 71 1205 - 1251 Ela de Aguillon 46 46 1170 - 1240 Michael de Poynings 70 70 1145 Margaret de Cayley 1126 - 1202 Adam de Poynings 76 76 1100 - 1147 Adam de Poynings 47 47 1102 Beatrice 1186 - 1249 Robert de Aguillon 63 63 1190 Margery de Fresney 1160 William de Fresney 1222 Margery Aguillon 1164 - 1232 Robert de Aguillon 68 68 1165 Agatha Beauro 1140 Fulk Beauro 1143 - 1201 Richard de Aquillon 58 58 1145 Ela de Freville 1120 - 1172 Manasser de Aguillon 52 52 1100 Isabell of Sussex 1280 - 1333 Margery Bardolf 53 53 1258 - 1323 Isabel Aguillon 65 65 1235 - 1292 Margaret de Savoy 57 57 1199 - 1259 Thomas de Savoie 60 60 1220 Beatrix de Fiesco 1269 Richard de Rokesley 1271 Joan Criol 1290 Richard Rokesley 1235 John de Rokesley 1249 - 1295 Bartholomew de Criol 46 46 1250 - 1301 Eleanor de Crevequer 51 51 1215 - 1263 John de Criol 48 48 1215 - 1268 Matilda de Estwell 53 53 1180 - 1256 Bertram de Criol 76 76 1195 Emma 1150 - 1194 John de Criol 44 44 Margery 1170 Cecilia de Criol 1110 - 1191 Bertram de Criol 81 81 1128 - 1207 Emma de Crevequer 79 79 1185 William de Estwell 1185 Margery 1220 - 1263 Hamon de Crevequer 43 43 1220 Maud d'Avranches 1190 Robert de Crevequer 1160 Daniel de Crevequer 1106 - 1154 Robert de Chatham de Crevequer 48 48 1085 - 1119 Hamio Fitzrobert 34 34 1186 - 1263 William d'Avranches 77 77 1185 Maud de Boclande 1170 Cecilia de Criol 1160 - 1214 Simon d'Avranches 54 54 1120 - 1191 William d'Avranches 71 71 Willelm de Abrincis, son and heir of Rivallon d'Avranches, lord of Folkestone, Kent, whom he succeeded by 1134. Occurs in a Norman inquest of 1172 as tenant of one fee of Mortain. He died c 1177 leaving a son Simon, who came of age c 1190 and died in 1203, leaving a son William II (d 1230). In 1242 his heir was his granddaughter Matilda, wife of Hamo II de Crevquer (d 1263). [Domesday Descendants p263]

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   1. Title: Domesday Descendants, A Prosopography of People Occurring in English Documents 1066-1166, K B S Keats-Rohan {2002}
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   2. Title: The Origins of Some Anglo-Norman Families, Lewis C Loyd, 1999
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   3. Title: English Baronies, A Study of Their Origin and Descent 1086-1327, Sanders {1960}
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      Page: 45-46  1140 - 1216 William de Boclande 76 76 Maud de Saye 1130 - 1176 Hugh de Boclande 46 46 1142 - 1177 William De Saye 35 35 Mary 1290 Richard Rokesley 1322 Robert Grey     SIR ROBERT FITZPAYN, formerly DE GREY, younger son of Sir Richard DE GREY, of Codnor, co. Derby [LORD GREY], by Joan, daughter of Sir Robert FITZPAYN [LORD FITZPAYN], by Isabel, his wife. He was b. about 1321. He married, between 16 August 1351 and 16 October 1354, Elizabeth, daughter, and in her issue coheir of Sir Guy DE BRIENE, of Laugharne, co. Carmarthen, and Walwyn's Castle, co. Pembroke [LORD BRIENE], by his 1st wife, Joan, daughter (it is said) of Sir John DE CARREU, of Carew, co. Pembroke. On the death of his uncle, Sir Robert FitzPayn, in 1354, he and his wife, Elizabeth, inherited the manors and advowsons of Cheddon Fitzpaine, Staple Fitzpaine, Charlton Mackrell, and Cary Fitzpaine, Somerset, and Wraxall, Dorset, by virtue of the fine levied in 28 Edw. III. On 20 December 1354 they had livery of the manors and advowsons of Charlton and Cary, his homage being respited, as he was then in the King's service with Guy de Briene in parts beyond seas, and the rest of the premises were liberated to them the same day. On the death of Ela FitzPayn, he inherited the manors and advowsons of Stogursey and Rodway, Somerset, and Okeford Fitzpaine, Dorset, with the hundred of Cannington, Somerset, by virtue of the fines levied in 17 Edw. II. On 6 Mar. 1355/6, he had livery of the premises in Somerset, and the manor and advowson of Okeford were liberated to him the same day. In 1359 he and Elizabeth, his wife, conveyed the manors of Wraxall and Stourton to John de Veer, Earl of Oxford, and Maud, his wife, for the life of Maud, at a rent of 200s. a year, with reversion to himself and Elizabeth, and his heirs. He was with the King in the invasion of France, October 1359 to 1360, in the retinue of Sir Guy de Briene. He died s.p.m., 21 May 1393. His wife predeceased him. [Complete Peerage V:463-4, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

    His heir was his daughter, Isabel, aged 28 and more, or 30 and more, in 1393, and then widow of Sir Richard Ponynges, of Poynings, West Dean, Waldron, and Hangleton, Sussex, Tirlingham, Kent, Wrentham, Suffolk, &c., sometimes called Lord Ponynges, who died 25 May 1387 at Villalpando in the Kingdom of Leon, and whose will, directing his burial to be in the parish church of Poynings, was dated 10 June 1387 [sic, for 1386], with a codicil, dated at Plymouth 1 June [no year added and proved at Mayfield, 26 September 1387. She had livery of her father's lands, 19 July 1393, her homage and fealty being respited. The King took her homage, 17 February 1393 /4. She died 11 April 1394, leaving Robert Ponynges, her son and heir, who was born at Okeford Fitzpaine, Wednesday after St. Andrew [3 December 1382, and baptized there.

Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
Page: V:463-4  1338 Elizabeth Bryan 1363 Margaret de Ros 1387 - 1439 John de Grey 52 52 1371 - 1440 Reynold de Grey 69 69 Database: jdp-fam
Individual: I56309
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roz griston  2005-07-08 18:08:53
hello just browsing thru. thought you'd like to know that reynold/reginald de grey are one in the same person. he married x2. his first wife was margaret de ros, his second was joan asteley.

margaret gave him a son john m. x2 his first wife was constance de holand. his second wife was margaret mowbray, dau of the duke of norfolk. her sister, isabel is the grandmother of john de grey m. elizabeth woodville.

reynold's second wife, joan asteley also gave him a son john, who was brother to edward who married elizabeth ferrars, dau of isabel mowbray. edward had a son john who married elizabeth woodville. this john de grey d. 1461 during the war of the roses. elizabeth went on to marry king edward iv of england.

you've got some great notes etc in your gedcom for other people. i've been studying/researching the de grey's and associated lines for several years, and just thought i'd share. with a bit of rootsweb/world connect surfing for the people mentioned above you'll find the accepted verification.

cheers
roz

1337 - 1383 Thomas de Ros 46 46 1332 - 1415 Beatrice Stafford 83 83 1368 William de Ros 1367 - 1424 Elizabeth de Ros 57 57 D. 1347 Ralph Stafford 1335 - 1362 Maud of Lancaster 27 27 1337 - 1375 Elizabeth Stafford 38 38 1332 Margaret Stafford 1300 - 1360 Henry of Lancaster 60 60 Henry of Grosmont, Duke of Lancaster (c. 1306 - 24 March 1361) was a member of the English royal family in the 14th century, and was a prominent English diplomat, politician, and soldier.

Henry was born to Henry of Lancaster, 3rd Earl of Lancaster, and he became a soldier in the English Army. He led various campaigns in Scotland and France (the Hundred Years War), before orchestrating a monumental (but temporary) peace treaty with France. This placed him in favorable light with the King of England, Edward III of England. Throughout his life, he held many honours, including: Earl of Derby, Earl of Lancaster, Earl of Leicester, Earl of Lincoln, and Duke of Lancaster; he was also a founding Knight of the Garter and Lord High Steward to Edward III.

He married Isabel de Beaumont, and they had two children:
Maud, Countess of Leicester
Blanche of Lancaster (married John of Gaunt)

 1310 - 1360 Isabel de Beaumont 50 50 1345 - 1369 Blanche Plantagenet 24 24 1285 - 1339 Henry de Beaumont 54 54     Note: Henry Beaumont, Earl of Buchan, so created 23 Jan 1333/4, as also 1st Lord Beaumont, so created 4 March 1308/9 by writ of summons according to later doctrine, Lord of the Isle of Man 1310, PC and Constable of England 1322, knighted by 1308, Envoy to France 1312-31, Constable of the English? Army 1333, English Justiciar of Scotland 1338. [Burke's Peerage]

Title: Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999
Page: 227

Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
Page: 114-30 & Page: 149a-29

Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
Page: XII/2:280, I:340  1315 Thomas de Beaumont 1309 Joan de Beaumont 1318 John de Beaumont 1235 - 1297 Louis de Brienne 62 62 1235 - 1290 Agnes de Beaumont 55 55 1260 Jeanne de Brienne 1274 Alix de Beaumont 1275 Joan de Beaumont 1210 - 1265 Raoul de Beaumont 55 55 1199 Agnes de la Fleche 1130 Richard de Beaumont 1130 Lucie de l'Aigle 1109 Constance of England 1100 - 1176 Roceline de Beaumont 76 76 1130 Ralph de Beaumont 1070 - 1120 Raoul de Beaumont 50 50 1074 Eleanor de Laval 1045 Hamon de Laval 1038 Hersende 1037 Hubert de Beaumont 1046 Ermengarde de Nevers 1289 - 1349 Alice Comyn 60 60 1400 - 1455 Alianore Berkeley 55 55 1332 - 1387 Gilbert Talbot 55 55 Gilbert Talbot, 3rd Lord (Baron) Talbot; born c1332; married 1st by 8 Sep 1352 Lady Pernel Butler (died allegedly 1386), daughter of 1st Earl of Ormond, and had an only son; married 2nd by 16 Nov 1379 Joan, widow of 2nd Lord (Baron) Cherleton, and daughter of Ralph de Stafford, 1st Earl of Stafford, and died allegedly 24 April 1387, leaving [Sir Richard] by his 1st wife. [Burke'sPeerage]

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Gilbert Talbot, b. c 1332, d. 24 Apr 1387, 3rd Lord Talbot, MP1362; m. (1) bef. 8 Sep 1352 Petronella Butler. [Magna Charta Sureties]

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BARONY OF TALBOT (III)

GILBERT (TALBOT), LORD TALBOT, son and heir, was born about 1332. He served in Gascony with the Prince of Wales and was still there in the King's service, 1 February 1356/7. He was summoned to Parliamen from 14 August 1362 to 8 August 1386. He did homage to Richard II at his Coronation, 16 July 1377, and was about to cross the seas, September following. On 6 June 1380 he had a pardon of outlawry for not appearing to answer John Sewal, citizen and mercer of London, touching a debt of 300. At the time of the Peasants' Revolt in 1381, he was a Commissionerfor co. Hereford, 7 July, to array the lieges against the insurgents. He accompanied Edmund of Langley, Earl of Cambridge, on his expedition to Portugal, 1381-82, taking part in the capture of Higuera-la-Real (province of Badajoz); was summoned, 13 June 1385, to be at Newcastle-on-Tyne, 14 July, for service against the Scots; and served from July 1386 in John of Gaunt's unsuccessful expedition to Spain and Portugal, being present at the capture of Vigo and the affair at Noya, and accompanying the Duchess Constance to visit the King of Portugal at Oporto.

He married, 1stly, before 8 September 1352, Pernel, daughter ofJames (BUTLER), 1st EARL OF ORMOND [IRL], by Eleanor, daughter of Humphrey (DE BOHUN), 4th EARL OF HEREFORD and 3rd EARL OF ESSEX, Constable of England, by his wife Elizabeth, daughter of EDWARD I. She was living, 28 May 1365, and is said to have died in 1368. He married, 2ndly, before 16 November 1379, Joan, widowof John (CHERLETON), LORD CHERLETON, feudal LORD OF Powis (died 13 July 1374] daughter of Ralph (DE STAFFORD), 1st EARL OF STAFFORD, by Margaret, daughter and heir of Hugh (DE AUDLEY), EARL OF GLOUCESTER. He is said to have died 24 April 1387 of the pestilence at Roales, in Spain, aged about 55. His widow died before 1397. [Complete Peerage XII/1:614-16, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

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Publication: Genealogical Publishing, Inc. Sixth Edition, 1988 Joan Stafford 1331 Fulk Lestraunge 1325 Jane de Bryen 1289 Guy de Bryen 1290 - 1343 Ann Holwey 53 53 1170 - 1234 Ermengarde of Beaumont 64 64 a granddaughter of King Henry I of England
Alexander II was the only son of William the Lion and his wife Ermengarde.

Ermengarde de Beaumont was Queen Consort of the Kingdom of Scotland.
Ermengarde was born circa 1170 to Richard I, Viscount de Beaumont and his wife Lucie, daughter of Richard II de l'Aigle. Through her father, she was the great granddaughter of Henry I of England.
She married William I of Scotland at Woodstock Palace on 5 September 1186. They had four children.
She died on 12 February 1233/1234, and was buried at Balmerino Abbey, Fife.
(Wikipedia)

Ermengarde de Beaumont was Queen Consort of the Kingdom of Scotland.
Ermengarde was born circa 1170 to Richard I, Viscount de Beaumont and his wife Constance FitzRoy, the illegitimate daughter of Henry I of England.
She married William I of Scotland at Woodstock Palace on 5 September 1186.
She died on 12 February 1233/1234, and was buried at Balmerino Abbey, Fife.
(Wikipedia)
 D. 1176 Richard de l'Aigle Beatrix 1160 - 1226 Constance de Beaumont 66 66 1290 Nicholas de Crew 1260 - 1311 Nicholas de Carew 51 51 1260 Amicia Peverell 1284 Thomas de Carew 1286 William de Carew 1288 David de Carew 1292 Beatrice de Carew 1235 - 1286 Nicholas de Carew 51 51 1240 Avice de Tuite 1267 David de Carew 1270 Maud de Carew 1275 John de Carew 1215 - 1277 William de Carew 62 62 1216 Alice Mareschal 1185 - 1228 Nicholas Carew 43 43 1190 Catherine Miles 1150 - 1213 William de Carew 63 63 1195 Maud de Carew 1178 Isabella Carew 1215 Odo FitzWilliam de Carew 1130 Maud FitzRichard 1158 Nicholas de Carew 1100 - 1173 William FitzGerald de Windsor 73 73 1130 Raymond FitzWilliam de Carew 1145 William FitzWilliam de Carew Title: Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999
Page: 1131  1100 Richard FitzTancred 1056 - 1120 Tancred Guiscard 64 64 1097 Gui FitzTancred 0999 - 1057 Fredesende of Normandy 58 58 1015 - 1085 Robert Guiscard 70 70 Robert Guiscard
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
Robert Guiscard (i.e. "the resourceful") (c. 1015-1085) was the most remarkable of the Norman adventurers who conquered Southern Italy and Sicily.

From 999 to 1059 the Normans were pure mercenaries, serving either Greeks or Lombards. Then Sergius of Naples, by installing the leader Rainulf in the fortress of Aversa in 1029, gave them their first pied-à-terre, allowing them to begin an organized conquest of the land.

In 1035 there arrived William Iron-Arm and Drogo, the two eldest sons of Tancred of Hauteville, a petty noble of Coutances in Normandy. The two joined in the organized attempt to wrest Apulia from the Greeks, who by 1040 had lost most of that province. In 1042 Melfi was chosen as the Norman capital, and in September of that year the Normans elected as their count William Iron-Arm, who was succeeded in turn by his brothers Drogo, "Comes Normannorum totius Apuliae e Calabriae", and Humphrey, who arrived about 1044. 1047 saw the arrival of Robert, the sixth son of Tancred of Hauteville, who was tall in stature, and had blonde colouring, blue eyes, and a powerful voice.

Guiscard soon rose to distinction. The Lombards turned against their allies and Leo IX determined to expel the Norman freebooters. The army which he led towards Apulia in 1053 was, however, overthrown at Civitate on the Fortore by the Normans, united under Humfrey, Guiscard, and Richard of Aversa. In 1057 Robert succeeded Humfrey as count of Apulia and, in company with Roger his youngest brother, carried on the conquest of Apulia and Calabria, while Richard conquered the principality of Capua.

The Papacy, foreseeing the breach with the emperor over investitures, then resolved to recognize the Normans and secure them as allies. Therefore at Melfi, on August 23, 1059, Nicholas II invested Robert with Apulia, Calabria, and Sicily, and Richard with Capua. Guiscard, "by Grace of God and St Peter duke of Apulia and Calabria and future lord of Sicily", agreed to hold by annual rent of the Holy See and to maintain its cause.

In the next twenty years he made an amazing series of conquests. Invading Sicily with Roger, the brothers captured Messina (1061) and Palermo (1072). Bari was reduced (April 1071), and the Greeks finally ousted from southern Italy. The territory of Salerno was already Robert's; in December 1076 he took the city, expelling its Lombard prince Gisulf, whose sister Sikelgaita he had married. The Norman attacks on Benevento, a papal fief, alarmed and angered Gregory VII, but pressed hard by the emperor, Henry IV, he turned again to the Normans, and at Ceprano (June 1080) reinvested Robert, securing him also in the southern Abruzzi, but reserving Salerno.

Guiscard's last enterprise was his attack on the Greek Empire, a rallying ground for his rebel vassals. He contemplated seizing the throne of the Basileus and took up the cause of Michael VII, who had been deposed in 1078 and to whose son his daughter had been betrothed. He sailed with 16,000 men against the empire in May 1081, and by February 1082 had occupied Corfu and Durazzo, defeating the emperor Alexius before the latter (the Battle of Dyrrhachium, October 1081). He was, however, recalled to the aid of Gregory VII, besieged in San Angelo by Henry IV (June 1083).

Marching north with 36,000 men he entered Rome and forced Henry to retire, but an émeute of the citizens led to a three days' sack of the city (May 1084), after which Guiscard escorted the pope to Rome. His son Bohemund, for a time master of Thessaly, had now lost the Greek conquests. Robert, returning to restore them, occupied Corfu and Kephalonia, but died of fever in the latter on July 15 1085, in his 70th year. He was buried in S. Trinità at Venosa.

Guiscard was succeeded by Roger "Borsa", his son by Sikelgaita; Bohemund, his son by an earlier Norman wife Alberada, being set aside. At his death Robert was duke of Apulia and Calabria, prince of Salerno and suzerain of Sicily. His successes had been due not only to his great qualities but to the "entente" with the Papal See. He created and enforced a strong ducal power which, however, was met by many baronial revolts, one being in 1078, when he demanded from the Apulian vassals an "aid" on the betrothal of his daughter. In conquering such wide territories he had little time to organize them internally. In the history of the Norman kingdom of Italy Guiscard remains essentially the hero and founder, as his nephew Roger II is the statesman and organizer.

 1030 - 1122 Alberada di Buonalbergo 92 92 Alberada of Buonalbergo
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Alberada or Aubrey of Buonalbergo (Latin: Alverada, French: Aubrée) (c.1033–July 1122) was the first wife of Robert Guiscard, duke of Apulia (1059–1085), whom she married in 1051 or 1052, when he was still just a robber baron in Calabria.

Alberada was the daughter of Lord Girard of Buonalbergo, who wanted the support of the rising Guiscard at that moment. As her dowry, she brought Guiscard two hundred knights. She bore Guiscard two children: a daughter, Emma, mother of Tancred, Prince of Galilee, and a son, Prince Bohemond I of Antioch. In 1058, after Pope Nicholas II strengthened existing canon law against consanguinity and on that basis, Guiscard repudiated Alberada in favour of a then-more advantageous marriage to Sichelgaita, the sister of Prince Gisulf II of Salerno. Nevertheless, the split was amicable and Alberada showed no later ill will.

She was alive at the death of Bohemond in March 1111 and died very old, probably in July 1122 or thereabouts. She was buried in the Hauteville family mausoleum in Venosa, where her tomb is the only one to come down to us intact.

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 1054 Emma Guiscard d'Apulia 1058 - 1111 Bohemond Guiscard of Antioch 53 53 1000 Girard di Buonalbergo Girard of Buonalbergo
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Girard, lord of Buonalbergo, was a Norman chieftain in the middle of the eleventh century in the Mezzogiorno. He was in the service of the prince of Benevento.

Despite being chiefly known for giving his daughter Alberada in marriage to the upstart Robert Guiscard, to assure the latter's alliance, he was an important enough baron to send 200 knights in fee as Alberada's dowry and still commit many to Humphrey, Count of Apulia and brother of the Guiscard, in the Battle of Civitate of 1053. He himself took part in the battle.
 0985 - 1051 Tancred Guiscard de Hauteville 66 66 1017 Mauger de Hauteville From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Mauger of Hauteville (also Latin Malgerius or Italian Maugerio) was a younger (probably the second) son of Tancred of Hauteville by his second wife, Fressenda. He travelled to the Mezzogiorno with his brother William and his elder half-brother Geoffrey around 1053, though some sources indicate him coming later, c.1056.

He soon distinguished himself and was invested with the county of the Capitanate soon after his arrival (either 1053 or 1057) by Humphrey, his half brother and count of Apulia, but he did not long survive to hold it. According to Goffredo Malaterra, he died in 1054, though other chroniclers have him dying in 1057 or as late as 1060, after assisting his elder full brother Robert Guiscard, Humphrey's successor, in an expedition against the new army of the Byzantine Emperor Constantine X, sent to recover Langobardia. Whenever he died, his fief went to William, who passed it to Geoffrey out of fraternal affection (according to Malaterra).


Sources
Chalandon, Ferdinand. Histoire de la domination normande en Italie et en Sicile. Paris, 1907.
Norwich, John Julius. The Normans in the South 1016-1130. Longmans: London, 1967.
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 1019 Alfred de Hauteville 1021 Tancred de Hauteville 1023 Hubert de Hauteville 1027 Guillaume de Hauteville 1031 - 1101 Roger Guiscard de Hauteville 70 70 Notes from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_I_of_Sicily

Roger I (1031 ? June 22 , 1101 ), Norman ruler of Sicily , was the youngest son of Tancred of Hauteville . He arrived in Southern Italy soon after 1055 .

Malaterra , who compares Robert Guiscard and his brother to "Joseph and Benjamin of old," says of Roger: "He was a youth of the greatest beauty, of lofty stature, of graceful shape, most eloquent in speech and cool in counsel. He was far-seeing in arranging all his actions, pleasant and merry all with men; strong and brave, and furious in battle." He shared with Robert Guiscard the conquest of Calabria , and in a treaty of 1062 the brothers in dividing the conquest apparently made a kind of "condominium" by which either was to have half of every castle and town in Calabria.

Robert now resolved to employ Roger's genius in reducing Sicily, which contained, besides the Muslims , numerous Greek Christians subject to Arab princes who had become all but independent of the sultan of Tunis . In May 1061 the brothers crossed from Reggio and captured Messina . After Palermo had been taken in January 1072 Robert Guiscard, as suzerain, invested Roger as count of Sicily, but retained Palermo, half of Messina and the north-east portion (the Val Demone). Not till 1085 , however, was Roger able to undertake a systematic crusade.

In March 1086 Syracuse surrendered, and when in February 1091 Noto yielded the conquest was complete. Much of Robert's success had been due to Roger's support. Similarly the latter supported Duke Roger, his nephew, against Bohemund I_of_Antioch, Capua and his rebels, and the real leadership of the Hautevilles passed to the Sicilian count. In return for his aid against Bohemund and his rebels the duke surrendered to his uncle in 1085 his share in the castles of Calabria, and in 1091 the half of Palermo. Roger's rule in Sicily was more real than Robert Guiscard's in Italy. At the enfeoffments of 1072 and 1092 no great undivided fiefs were created, and the mixed Norman, French and Italian vassals owed their benefices to the count. No feudal revolt of importance therefore troubled Roger. Politically supreme, the count became master of the insular Church. While he gave full toleration to the Greek Churches, he created new Latin bishoprics at Syracuse and Girgenti and elsewhere, nominating the bishops personally, while he turned the archbishopric of Palermo into a Catholic see.

The Papacy, favouring a prince who had recovered Sicily from Greeks and Muslims, granted to him and his heirs in 1098 the Apostolic Legateship in the island. Roger practised general toleration to Arabs and Greeks, allowing to each race the expansion of its own civilization. In the cities the Muslims, who had generally secured such terms of surrender, retained their mosques, their kadis, and freedom of trade; in the country, however, they became serfs. He drew from the Muslims the mass of his infantry, and Saint Anselm of_Canterbury visiting him at the siege of Capua, 1098, found "the brown tents of the Arabs innumerable." Nevertheless the Latin element began to prevail with the Lombards and other Italians who flocked into the island in the wake of the conquest, and the conquest of Sicily was decisive in the steady decline from this time of Mahommedan power in the western Mediterranean.

Roger, the "Great Count of Sicily," died on June 22 , 1101 in his seventieth year and was buried in S. Trinità of Mileto.

Family
Roger married three times. The first marriage took place in 1061, to Judith, daughter of William, count of Évreux (in Normandy) and Hawisa of Échauffour. She died in 1076 , leaving daughters:
A daughter, married Hugues of Gircea
Matilda, married Raymond IV of Toulouse
Adelisa, married Henry, Count of Monte San Angelo
Emma, briefly engaged to King Philip I of France ; married Ralph Maccabees, count of Montecaglioso

In 1077 Roger married a second time, to Eremburge of Mortain, daughter of William, count of Mortain (also in Normandy). Their daughters were:
Mathilda, married Robert, Count of Eu
Felicia, married King Coloman of Hungary

Roger's last wife was Adelaide del Vasto , niece of Boniface, lord of Savona. They married in 1087 . Their children were:
Simon, Count of Sicily (died September 28 , 1105 )
Roger
Maximilla, married Conrad, son of the Holy Roman Emperor Henry IV
Matilda, married Ranulf, count of Alife

Trivia
From the perspective of the history of Malta , Roger I was also the first Christian overlord of this archipelago. He conquered the Arabs in 1090 and immediately introduced a tri-partite feudal system of State, Church and Nobility. There probably was more to it - even until today, folklore tells how Roger - needing the help of the Maltese - tore his quartered red-and-white banner, thus creating the Maltese flag. Historians state that this premise is impossible.

This article incorporates text from the 1911 Encyclopædia Britannica , a publication in the public domain .
 1025 Fredisendis Guiscard de Hauteville 0955 Tancred Guiscard de Hauteville 0964 Fredesende de Normandy 0930 Tancred Guiscard de Hauteville 0905 Guisgard de Hauteville 0885 Hailti Ivarsson de Hauteville 0865 Ivar Magnusson 0845 Magnus Olafsson 0825 Olaf Arailtsson 0802 - 0856 Arailt Harold Iversson 54 54 1185 - 1235 John Mareschal 50 50 1173 - 1266 Aliva de Rie 93 93 1210 John Mareschal 1214 William Mareschal 1218 Sibyl Mareschal 1154 Anselm Mareschal 1164 Alicia 1210 Richard de Tuite 1220 Hugh Peverell 1223 Isabel FitzWilliam de Mohun 1250 Richard Peverell 1253 Laura Peverell 1198 Hugh Peverell 1202 Isabel de Brymeton 1170 William Peverell 1205 John Peverell 1145 Hugh Peverell 1185 Lucia Peverell 1118 Richard Peverel 1185 - 1248 William FitzRalph de Mohun 63 63 1190 Beatrix FitzPiers 1220 Ralph FitzWilliam de Mohun 1150 Ralph FitzWilliam de Mohun 1162 Yolande de Mohun 1187 Yolande FitzRalph de Mohun 1125 William FitzDurand de Mohun 1098 - 1150 Durand de Mohun 52 52 1397 - 1427 Margaret Grey 30 30 1235 Robert Aguillon 1000 Ralph de Beaumont D. 1058 Emma de Montrevaut 0965 - 1014 Ralph de Beaumont 49 49 Eremburga 0930 - 0967 Ralph de Beaumont 37 37 0934 Godebelt de Creil 1220 - 1273 Nicholas de Criol 53 53 1180 - 1242 Sybil de Crevequer 62 62 1137 William de Aguillon 1140 Robert de Aguillon Guy de Bryan Sibil 1265 William Holwey 1285 Auiciam le Gaunte 1260 Richard le Gaunte 1315 - 1368 Catherine de Beaumont 53 53 0985 Alpais de Beaumont 0905 Robert Buzancais de Beaumont 0933 Robert de Buzancais 0880 Sulpice Boucliers de Buzancais 0850 Haimon de Buzancais 0971 - 1034 Marsire de Doue 63 63 0994 - 1035 Etienne de Montrevault 41 41 1010 - 1069 Adelburge de Lude 59 59 0956 - 0993 Roger de Montrevault 37 37 0993 Foulque de Montrevault 0925 Roger de Montrevault Sources:

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      Title: Généalogie de Carné
      Author: de Carné, Alain
      Publication: http://a.decarne.free.fr/gencar/dat70.htm#28; 19 Aug 2005; Forez, Loire, France
      Date: 12 Nov 2005  0925 Agnes du Maine 0900 Hilbert de Montrevault Sources:

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      Abbrev: Carné
      Title: Généalogie de Carné
      Author: de Carné, Alain
      Publication: http://a.decarne.free.fr/gencar/dat70.htm#28; 19 Aug 2005; Forez, Loire, France
      Date: 12 Nov 2005  0865 Godehilde France 0860 - 0910 Godefroi du Maine 50 50 0890 - 0958 Geoffroy- Rorgon du Maine 68 68 0920 Thibault du Maine 0892 Godehilde du Maine 0895 Bilhildis du Maine 1281 - 1335 Richard de Grey 54 54 Sir Richard de Grey; called to Parliament 4 March 1308/9-23 Feb 1334/5 but under the more rigorous rules of evidence required today the lack of proof of an actual sitting has been held to militate against the ascription of an actual peerage
creation; pardoned 1321 for any action of his hostile to Edward II's favourites, the Despensers; Steward of Gascony 1324; Constable of Nottingham Castle 1325-30. [Burke's Peerage] 1286 Joan FitzPayn 1307 - 1392 John de Grey 85 85 Sir John de Grey, KG; summoned to Parliament 1 April 1335 - 23 Nov 1392 but again with no proof of his sitting; campaigned Scotland, Flanders and France, present at Crecy and Siege of Calais 1346-47; Keeper of Rochester Castle 1359. [Burke's Peerage].

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GREY (of Codnor)
BARONY BY WRIT.
III. 1335.
3. Sir John de Grey, Lord Grey (of Codnor), s. and h. [of Sir Richard de Grey & Joan FitzPayn],(m125) had livery (after homage) of his father’s lands 26 Mar. 1335, saving to Joan, late wife of Richard, her dower.(n125) He was sum. to Parl. from 1 Apr. (1355) 9 Edw. III to 23 Nov. (1392) 16 Ric. II, by writs directed _Johanni de Grey de Codenore_ or _Johanni filio Ricardi de Grey de Codenore_ or _Johanni de Grey de Codnore_, and to various Councils and for Military Service between those dates. He was serving in Scotland at great expense 18 Oct. 1335, when he had respite of debts due to the Exchequer, and Joan, his mother, had release from any distraint made.(a126) About midsummer 1345 he crossed over with the Earls of Derby and Pembroke to Gascony.(b126) He was in the Crécy expedition, joining the King during the siege of Calais.(c126) On 13 Aug. 1347 he and his heirs had a grant of free warren in all their demesne lands of Barton-on-Trent, Notts.(d126) In 1350 he had a very grave sickness.(e126) On 1 July 1359 he was granted at farm* the city of Rochester and the keepership of the castle there, to hold the same for life.(f126) On 16 Aug. following he had a protection on going abroad in the retinue of John, Earl of Richmond. On 20 June 1365, when going on a pilgrimage, he nominated attorneys (his Brother Henry de Grey being one).(h126) In 1371 he was, on account of old age and bodily infirmities, excused from attendance at parliaments, councils, &c., in consideration of his long service in the wars beyond and on this side of the seas. He m., 1stly, before 4 Sep. 1325, Eleanor.(j126) He m., 2ndly, before 20 Oct. 1330, Alice, da. of Sir Warin de Lisle, of Kingston-Lisle, by Alice, da. of Henry de Tyes, Lord Tyes, and h. of her br. Henry de Tyes.(k126) In 1344 John de Grey of Codnor and Alice his wife had licence to choose their confessor.(l126) He d. 14 Dec. 1392,(m126) having chosen his tomb in the Carmelite Church of Aylesford in Kent.(n126)

(m125) His age is given variously as 24, and more, 24 and more, 28 and 30, according to the various juries concerned with his father’s inquisitions p. m.
(n125) _Cal. Fine Rolls_.
(a126) _Cal. Close Rolls_.
(b126) Chron. and Mem., Adam de Murimuth, _Chron. p. 243.
(c126) Wrottesly's _Crécy_, William Salt. Soc., vol xviii, p. 6.
(d126) _Cal. Charter Rolls_.
(e126) _Cal. Close Rolls_, 8 June.
(f126) Rendering £12 yearly for the City and £38 for the Castle and guards pertaining thereto (_Cal. Fine Rolls_).
(g126) Syllabus of Rymer’s _Fœdera_.
(h126) _Cal. Patent Rolls_.
(i126) _Idem_.
(j126) Pardon to John, s. of Richard de Grey of Codnor, and Eleanor his wife for acquiring in fee tail from the said Richard the manors of Hoo and Aylesford, Kent, and entering without licence (_Cal. Patent Rolls_).
(k126) Licence for John de Grey to enfeoff Richard de Grey of the manor of Hoo and £24 rent in Aylesford, and for Richard to regrant to John and Alice, dau. of Alice, late wife of Warin de Insula, in fee tail with remainder to heirs of Richard (_Cal. Patent Rolls_ and_Cal. Inq. p. m._, Edw. III; Inq. on Henry de Tyes, writ 8 Feb. 1326/7).
(l126) _Cal. Papal Reg._
(m126) Exch. _Inq. p. m._, 16 Ric. II, no. 289. Inq., co. Lincoln, Monday after the Epiphany 16 Ric. II.
(n126) _Cal. Papal Reg._ (Petitions), 1355. In 1342 (_Idem_, Letters) he had obtained licence for the Carmelites whom his ancestors brought from the Holy Land to eat flesh at his table on lawful days. In 1344 (_Idem_, Petitions) John Paschal Carmelite Bishop of Llandaff, petitioned on behalf of John de Grey of Codnor (whose ancestors brought Carmelites from the Holy Land and settled them in England) and Alice his wife, Sir William de Harcourt, his son-in-law, and wife Joan**, Rose la Forestere of Monks-Eleigh, that their several confessors might give them plenary remission at the hour of death. As John de Grey of Codnor, baron, companion of the Duke of Lancaster, he petitioned (_Idem_) in 1355 for relaxation of 1 year and 40 days enjoined penance for those visiting the Carmelite church at Aylesford, which was granted. Of the White Friars of Aylesford, little seems to be known beyond its foundation by Richard de Grey of Codnor about 1240. [Ref: CP VI 125-6]

* For the meaning of “granted at farm”, see “farm” at the Online Reference Book for Medieval Studies: http://www.the-orb.net/encyclop/culture/towns/glossary.html

** Joan (Jane per Weis AR7 50:34) was John’s sister, ergo Sir Wm. de Harcourt was his brother-in-law, not son-in-law. I don’t have it yet so don’t know if CP XIV corrected this, or whether her parentage is still in dispute...CH

For precise source refs, p. 126 begins “He was sum. to Parl. from 1 Apr. (1355) 9 Edw. III”.
FWIW, although the text of the article ends on p. 126, footnote “(n)” continues on p. 127 at “Bishop of Llandaff”

Note that he had a brother Henry (see text above), a son Henry & a illegit son Nicholas (see below):

[Sir Henry de Grey,(a) s. and h. [of John de Grey] by 2nd wife [Alice de Tyes], was abroad with the Duke of Lancaster in 1369. He m. Joan, da. of Reynold (de Cobham), Lord Cobham, by Joan, da. of Thomas (de Berkeley), Lord Berkeley. He d. v.p.]

(a) John, Lord Grey, had also a natural son, Nicholas de Grey, on behalf of whom he petitioned for a canonry and prebend in Lincoln and Southwell, which was granted 6 Ides Feb. 1355 (_Cal. Papal Reg._). [Ref: CP VI:127] Note: the insertions "[of John de Grey]" and "[Alice de Tyes]" are mine...CH

This Sir Henry de Grey’s son (John’s grandson) was Sir Richard de Grey, 4th Lord/Baron Grey of Codnor, b. in or bef. 1371, who m., bef. 1378 (when they were both 7), Elizabeth, yr. da. and coh. of Ralph (Basset), Lord Basset of Sapcote, being only child by his 2nd wife, Alice, da. of John Derby. Sir Richard d. 1 Aug. 1418 & was bur. at Aylesford. Alice d. after 23 Aug. 1446 (there is a deed dated 24 Aug. 1446 that she made re: instructions for her estates). The foregoing is reworded from CP VI:127-9. If you want the full CP article on Sir Richard let me know.

Regards,
Curt

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GREY, JOHN de, third Baron (sixth by tenure) Grey of Codnor (1305-1392), soldier, born in 1305, was son of Richard de Grey (d. 1335), second baron, who was son of Henry de Grey (1254-1309) a grandson of Richard de Grey (fl. 1250). Richard de Grey, second baron (d. 1335), was one of the barons who at the assembly of Stamford on 6 Aug. 1309 drew up a letter of remonstrance to the pope on the abuses in the church (_Annales Londinienses_ in _Chron. Edw. I and II_, Rolls Ser., i. 162). He was employed in the Scottish war in 1311, 1314, and 1319-20. In 1324 he was steward of Aquitaine, and was sent to defend Argentain (Knighton, in _Scriptores Decem_, 2543), and in 1326-7 was constable of Nottingham Castle. In 1327 he was employed in the Scotch marches, and was summoned for the Scottish war in 1334, but was excused on the ground of sickness. He died in 1335.
John de Grey took part in the wars of Edward III, in 1334, 1336, 1338, 1342, and 1346, in Scotland, and in 1339 in Flanders. In 1345 he accompanied Henry, earl of Derby, afterwards duke of Lancaster, on his expedition to France, which was followed by a year's successful warfare in Guienne (Murimuth, Appendix, p. 243, in Rolls Ser.) He was again in France in 1349, 1353, and 1360. In 1350 he had license to go on a pilgrimage to Rome (_Fœdera_, iii. 440). In 1353 he was commissioner of array for the counties of Nottingham and Derby, and in 1360 was appointed governor of Rochester Castle for life. In 1372 he received a dispensation from coming to parliament on the score of his advanced age (_ib._ iii. 914). He is sometimes described as a knight of the Garter, but this is due to confusion with John de Grey of Rotherfield (1300-1359). He was last summoned to parliament 8 Sept. 1392, and seems to have died soon after. He married Alice de Insula, by whom he had a son Henry (d. 1379).
[Rymer's Fœdera, ed. 1830; Dugdale's Baronage, i. 710; Burke's Dormand and Extinct Peerages, p. 248.] C. L. K.* [Ref: DNB, Editors, Leslie Stephen & Sidney Lee, MacMillan Co, London & Smith, Elder & Co., NY, 1908, vol. viii, p. 635]

* Charles Lethbridge Kingsford, author of this article.

Apparently "de Insula" is latin for "de Lisle"...CH

Regards,
Curt

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 1304 Jane de Grey 1267 Eleanor de Courtenay 1260 Henry de Grey     Sir Henry de Grey, of Codnor, Grays, Aylesford and Hoo, both of Kent; campaigned in Gascony 1294-97; in Edward I's army at Siege of Carlaverock 1300 and campaigned in Scotland as late as 1306; summoned to an assembly which met 1298/9 - 16 Aug 1308 and which by certain past rulings has been designated a Parliament, although neither knights nor burgesses were summoned and under the more rigorous rules of evidence required today would not constitiute a sitting such as could give rise to a peerage creation. [Burke's Peerage]

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Page: 1228  1230 John de Grey John de Grey; married Lucy, daughter of Sir Reynold de Mohun, of Dunster, Somerset, by Hawise, daughter and heir of William Fleming. [Burke's Peerage]

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Page: 1228  1232 - 1271 Lucy de Mohun 39 39 1200 - 1271 Richard de Grey 71 71 Richard de Grey, of Codnor; Warde Guernsey and Jersey 1226 and 1254, Sheriff of Essex and Herts 1239, Steward of Gascony c1248 and 1253; sided with Simon de Montfort in the Baron's War 1258 on; Keeper of Dover Castle on behalf of the baronial party, Keeper of Rochester after Battle of Lewes 1264; later taken prisoner by Henry III and his lands were confiscated but these were shortly afterwards restored to him. [Burke's Peerage] 1198 Lucy de Humez 1233 Agnes de Grey 1165 John de Humez Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999
Page: 1228  1135 Jordan de Humez 1135 Hawise 1100 - 1180 William Richard du Hommet 80 80 1105 - 1160 Agnes Beaumont de Say 55 55 1125 William du Hommet 1075 - 1156 Robert du Hommet 81 81 1050 - 1130 John de Bayeux 80 80 1030 - 1096 Odo de Conteville 66 66 1075 Jordan Say 1080 Lucy de Rumilly 1319 - 1390 Guy de Briene Bryan 71 71     GUY DE BRYAN, son and heir of Sir Guy de Bryan, of Walwyns Castle, co. Pembroke, and of Tor Brian, Devon, served in the wars with Scotland, Flanders, and France; was made Gov. of St. Briavel's Castle and Warden of the Forest of Dean 1341 till his death; succeeded his father in 1349, being then 40 years old and more, and had the temporary custody of the Great Seal in that year. On 15 January 1349/50 he had a grant of 200 marks per annum for bearing the King's Standard against his enemies of France at Calais. He was summoned to Parliament from 25 November 1350 to 6 December 1389, by writs directed Guidoni de Bryan, whereby he is held to have become LORD BRYAN. He was constantly entrusted with martial and diplomatic affairs of the highest importance. In 1361 he was ambassador to the Pope; in 1369 was Admiral of the Fleet, &c. On the death (31 December 1369) of the renowned Chandos he was nominated K.G. in his room.

    He married, 1stly, Joan [living 12 April 1348], said to be daughter of Sir John de Carreu, of Carew, co. Pembroke. He married, 2ndly in 1349 or 1350 and before 10 July 1350, Elizabeth, widow of Hugh [LORD] LE DESPENSER (who died 8 February 1348/9), and before that of Giles [LORD] BADLESMERE (who died 1338), and daughter of William (MONTAGU), 1st EARL OF SALISBURY, by Catherine, daughter of William [LORD] GRANDSON. She died 31 May 1359, at Ashley, Hants, and was buried in Tewkesbury Abbey. Inq..P. M. June (1359) 33 Edw. III. He died 17 August 1390, and was also buried there. M.I. Inq. p. m. (1390-1) 14 Ric. II. On his death any Barony that may be held to have been created by the writ of 1350, fell (according to modern doctrine) into abeyance between his two granddaughters and coheirs (h), children of his 1st son and heir apparent, Sir Guy de Bryan, junior, by his wife, Elizabeth aforesaid. He, who died v.p., 1386, married Alice, who was living 20 May 1409, and was executrix to her father-in-law 27 January 1393/4. [Complete Peerage II:361-2, XIV:118, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

    (h) These were, in 1390, Philippe, aged 12, and Elizabeth, aged 10. The said Phillipe m. 1stly, John Devereux, and 2ndly Sir Henry le Scrope, but dsp.; Elizabeth became the wife of Sir Robert Lovell, by whom she had a daughter and sole heir, Maud, who m. 1stly, John, Earl of Arudel, and by him had Humphrey, Earl of Arundel, who died under age, sp.; the said Maud m. 2ndly, Sir Richard Stafford, and had issue, Avice, who became the wife of James Butler, Earl of Ormund, but dsp. 1456, at which date the Barony of Bryan has been presumed to have become extinct. We know that Guy de Bryan had other children (1) Sir William de Bryan, his 2nd son, dsp. 22 Sep 1395, and was buried at Seal, Kent. He left a widow Joan. (2) Philip, his 3rd son, dsp. before 14 Feb 1388, the abovementioned Philippe and Elizabeth being found heirs to both their uncles. (3) Margaret was in 1361 wife of Hugh de Courtenay, grandson of the Earl of Devon, which Hugh dsp. 20 Feb 1373/4. There was at least one other child.

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Text: no date, 3rd husband ;Guy Lord (Baron) Briene

Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
Page: II:361  1320 - 1348 Joan de Carew 28 28 1283 - 1324 John de Carew 41 41 1295 Joanna Talbot 1077 William de Baliol 1130 Osmund de Fresney 1135 Christiana de Windsor D. 1205 Walter de Windsor William Fitz-Walter de Windsor 1194 William de Windsor 1248 Thomas de Savoie 1249 Amadeus de Savoie 1235 - 1302 Louis de Savoie 67 67 Tedisio de Fiesco 1085 Robert de Criol 1110 Elias de Crevequer 1070 - 1119 Robert de Crevecouer 49 49 0999 Hamon Dapifer de Crevequer 1030 Hamon de Crevequer 0985 - 1035 Hildeburge de Belleme 50 50 0975 - 1030 Aimon de Chateau- du-Loire 55 55 0957 - 1045 Richard de Creully 88 88 0990 Godchilde de Belesme 1000 - 1047 Hamon Dentatus Crevecouer 47 47 # Note: From: "Sinclair"
# Note: Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 13:04:42 +0200

# Note: E.A. Freeman was definitively William's principal panegyrist. He makes no memtion of any St Clair rebels.

# Note: Hamon was killed Val-es-dunes he was Lord of Creully, Torigny, Evrecy and Thaon. He was not the Comte (Earl) of Corbeil or Mortain. The first three Counts were:

996 to 1032 Mauger de Normandie, comte de Mortain et de Corbeil
1032 to 1048 Guillaume 1er de Normandie, surnommé Werleng ou Guerleng, comte de Mortain et de Corbeil
1049 to 1104 Robert 1er de Conteville, comte de Mortain et de Cornouailles

    (The name of Thaon appears very early in archives of Normandy. Hamon of the Teeth, Lord of Creully, Torigny, Evrecy and Thaon was one of the feudal rebels at the time of the uprising that was defeated by William the Bastard at Val - es-dunes (1047). Léchaudé of Anisy in his notes on the barony and the church of Thaon it is mentioned by Wace Roman de Rou.) His father was Malger his Mother: Coeur-en-Auge

    In 1035, Robert, Duke of Normandy died. Although William was illegitimate, he was Robert's only living son, and so inherited the father's title. Gilbert, Count of Brionne, became William's guardian. A number of Norman barons would not accept an illegitimate son as their leader and in 1040 an attempt was made to kill William. The plot failed by they did manage to kill Gilbert.

    William was a Norman born and bred. William's cousin Guy of Burgundy, his rival was in every sense a Frenchman. His connexion with the ducal house was on distaff side, but uncontested legitimacy. This gave him an excuse for claiming the duchy in opposition to the bastard.. William after the death of Gilbert, gave the island fortress of Brionne in the Risle to Guy. The partition of the duchy was Guy's aim. William was to be dispossessed; Guy was to be duke in the lands east of Dive; the great lords of Western Normandy were to be left independent. St Clair fiefs lay to the North and East of a line from Rouen to Caen. The lords of the Bessin and the Cotentin revolted, their leader being Neal, Viscount of Saint-Sauveur in the Cotentin.

    The victory at Val-es-dunes was decisive, and the French King, whose help had done so much to win it, left William to follow it up. He met with but little resistance except at the stronghold of Brionne. Guy himself vanishes from Norman history. William had now conquered his own duchy, and conquered it by French help. For once King Henry had kept his word.

    The Conqueror's battle at Val-es-dunes was a tourney of horsemen on an open table-land just within the land of the rebels between Caen and Mezidon. William with the aid of Henry, King of France, William gained a great victory at Val-ès-Dunes, which led, to the capture of the two strong castles of Alençon and Domfront.

# Note: Title: Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999
# Note: Page: cxviii

# Note: Title: The Origins of Some Anglo-Norman Families, by Lewis C Loyd, 1999
# Note: Page: 50

Marriage 1 *Godchilde de Belleme b: ABT 1005 in Chateau Gontier, Mayenne, Maine/Pays-de-la-Loire, France

Children

   1. Has Children *Hamo Dapifer Crevecouer b: ABT 1032 in Torigny-sur-Vire, Manche, Normandy, France 1075 - 1134 Rivallon d'Avranches 59 59 Rivallon de Abrincis

Rivallon of Avranches, lord of Folkestone, Kent, by marriage with Matilda de Muneville, granddaughter and heiress of William of Arques (BL Harley 4757, copy of Bermondsey register, fol.3, Henry I orders Roger sheriff of Surrey and Gilbert his nephew to ensure Bermondsey has the grants made by Nigel de Muneville 'et gener eius Rivallonus de Abrincis'). Occurs from the beginning of Henry's reign; the king had apparently given him the royal manor of Stanton Harcourt by May 1101. Occurs in charters of St Andrew, Northampton, associated with Turgis d'Avranches, of whom he was perhaps a close relative; possibly both were related to Bishop Turgis of Avranches (1091-1134). Father of William d'Avranches and Mitilda alias Felicia, wife of Humphrey de Millieres. [Domesday Descendants pp262-263] 1090 - 1134 Matilda de Muneville 44 44 1060 - 1103 Nigel de Muneville 43 43 Sources:

   1. Title: The Origins of Some Anglo-Norman Families, Lewis C Loyd, 1999
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   3. Title: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor {1978-1992}
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