Ermengarde de Macon (of Bar) 
Ermengarde was born in 0972 in Macon, Saone-et-Loire, Bourgogne, France.1 Ermengarde's father was Alberic de Macon II and her mother was Ermentrude Adelaide de Roucy. Her paternal grandparents were Count Letalde Macon I and Richilde Burgundy; her maternal grandparents were Renaud de Roucy and Alberade of Lorraine. She had a sister named Beatrice. She had a half-brother and four half-sisters, named Renaud, Gerberge, Maud, de Macon and Agnes. She died at the age of 46 in 1018.2 General Notes
Note: AR has Herbert III de Vermandois as her 2nd husband, but the noted French genealogist Settipani has Herbert as her 1st husband and Milo IV as her 2nd. The sourced dates seem to work better following AR (which is why I am leaving them alone); however, if Settipani is correct (and he is an expert), then Herbert III would have died before 992 (Settipani has Ermengarde's son by Milo, Renaud b. abt 993), and Herbert & Ermengarde's son Otto would have been born before 992/3 instead of about 1000.
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This is an excerpt from a post to SGM (full post is in notes under Ermengarde de Tonnerre), 5 Dec 1998, by Settipani, the noted French genealogist:
The Ascendancy of Ermengarde of Tonnerre : Part II
The family of Ermengardis (no 5), widow of Herbert, not the reverse, is not « Bar-sur-Seine » (one misunderstanding hypothesis of E. Petit: such a dynasty does not exist at this time). She was, I think, the daughter of Alberic II of Macon and his second wife.
Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
Page: Ed Mann, 15 Jun 1998
Text: following Stuart's "Royalty for Commoners" (according to Settipani, a mistake)
Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
Page: 50-20
Text: no date, 2nd husb ,Ermengarde of Bar (according to Settipani, a mistake)
Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
Page: Settipani, 5 Dec 1998
Text: 1st husband
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Ancestor Pedigree Chart
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*There are earlier generations for the ancestor(s) indicated. See their page(s) for details (click name)
- b.0820 in Narbonne, Aude, Languedoc, France d.0878 in Narbonne, Aude, Languedoc, France
- b.0845 in Carcassonne, Aude, Languedoc, France d.05 Jun 0911 in Narbonne, Aude, Languedoc, France
<Unknown>
- b.0880 in Narbonne, Aude, Languedoc, France d.0945 in Macon, Saone-et-Loire, Bourgogne, France
- b.0850 in Narbonne, Aude, Languedoc, France d.06 May 0911
- b.0910 in Macon, Saone-et-Loire, Bourgogne, France d.17 Sep 0965 in Macon, Saone-et-Loire, Bourgogne, France
- b.22 Mar 0841 in Uzes, Languedoc, France d.0886 in Autun, Saone-et-Loire, Bourgogne, France
- b.0870 in Macon, Saone-et-Loire, Bourgogne, France d.0920
- b.0843 in Auvergne, France d.Jun 0881
- b.0892 in Macon, Saone-et-Loire, Bourgogne, France
<Unknown>
- b.0953 in Macon, Seine-et-Loire, France d.0975
- b.0922 in Auxerre, Yonne, Bourgogne, France
- b.0972 in Macon, Saone-et-Loire, Bourgogne, France d.1018
- b.0818 in Vermandois, Normandy, France d.0848 in Milan, Italy
- b.0839 in Vermandois, Aisne, Picardy, France d.0893 in Senlis, Oise, Picardy, France
- b.0812 d.0858
- b.0880 in Senlis, Oise, Picardy, France d.23 Feb 0942 in St. Quentin, Flanders
<Unknown>
- b.0931 in Reims, Marne, France d.15 Mar 0973 in France
- b.0820 d.15 Sep 0866
- b.0860 d.15 Jun 0923
- b.0802
- b.0897 in Vermandois, Neustria, France d.Mar 0930 in Vermandois, Neustria, France
- b.0835 in Bourges, Berry, France d.0864 in Bourges, Berry, France
- b.0879 in Bourges, Berry, France
- b.0842 in Bourges, Berry, France
- b.0963 in Rheim, Marne, France d.05 Mar 1005
- b.0850 in Lorraine, France d.0915
- b.0885 in Hainault, Flanders, Belgium d.0932 in Meersen
- b.0865
- b.0915 in Hainault, Flanders, Belgium d.02 Oct 0939 in Andernach, Rhineland, Germany
- b.0864 in France d.01 Sep 0921 in Auxerre
- b.0895
<Unknown>
- b.0930
- b.0836 d.12 Nov 0912
- b.0876 in Saxony, Germany d.02 Jun 0936 in Membleben, Saxony, Germany
- b.0860 d.24 Dec 0903
- b.0913 in Nordausen, Saxony, Prussia d.05 May 0984 in Reims, Marne, Champagne, France
- b.0853 d.0920
- b.0892 in Mesleben, Saxony, Germany d.14 Mar 0967 in Memleben, Saxony
- b.0858
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Details of Ermengarde's family with Milo de Tonnerre IV
Details of Ermengarde's family with Count Herbert de Vermandois III
1 http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=tamer&id=I2564&style=TABLE
2 http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=jdp-fam&id=I50089&style=TABLE
Further source/citation:
http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jdp-fam&id=I5834
2 http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=jdp-fam&id=I50089&style=TABLE
Further source/citation:
http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jdp-fam&id=I5834
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