- b.1076 in Dunham Massey, Cheshire, , England d.1101 in Dunham, Lancashire, , England
- b.1112 in Trafford, Lancashire, , England d. in Trafford, Lancashire, , England
- b.1042 in Sacey,Avranches,,France
- b.1077 in Dunham Massey, Cheshire, , England d.11 Nov 1105 in Dunham Massey, Cheshire, , England