http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:a58450&id=I67&ti=5540 Gilbert III De VENABLES 1 2 17 SmartMatches F. SAMUEL LOWE, SR. (1680) M. MADAME ANN (LOWE) (1684) http://www.gencircles.com/users/cruella2821/5/data/1285 Birth: About 1204 in Kinderton,Cheshire,Eng Death: Sex: M Father: Gilbert II De VENABLES b. About 1175 in Kinderton,Cheshire,Eng Mother: Margery De HATTON b. About 1175 in Of Kinderton,Cheshire,England http://www.gencircles.com/users/talkingwolf/1/data/15397