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The following is a post to SGM, 16 Dec 2002, by Douglas Richardson:

From: Douglas Richardson (royalancestry@@msn.com)
Subject: Identity of Alice de Senlis, wife of Roger de Huntingfield
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2002-12-16 23:46:47 PST

Dear Cris ~

Thank you for your good post. 

In answer to your question regarding Alice de Senlis, wife of Roger de Huntingfield, it appears that Alice was a hitherto unnoticed daughter of Saher de Quincy, by his wife, Maud de Senlis.   Alice evidently adopted her mother's maiden name, a practice common among high born women in this period.  The evidence of Alice's identity consists of the passage of the manor of East Bradenham, Norfolk, from Saher de Quincy to the Huntingfield family.  This manor was evidently Alice's maritagium.  As for further evidence of Alice's identity, we have another piece of evidence.  Alice's husband, Roger de Huntingfield, was present with a later Saher de Quincy in 1200, when William the Lion, King of Scotland, paid homage to King John at Lincoln [Reference: William Stubbs, ed., Chronica Magistri Rogeri de Houedene, 4 (Rolls Ser., vol. 51, no. 4), pp.141-142.  Roger de Huntingfield's wife, Alice de Senlis, and Saher de Quincy would both have been near kinsfolk to William the Lion.  Also, present at this occasion were Roger Bigod, Earl of Norfolk (husband of Countess Ida), and Countess Ida's son, William Longespee, also surely near kinsfolk to William the Lion, King of Scotland.

Alice de Senlis would possess royal ancestry through her descent from Countess Judith, niece of William the Conqueror.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

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