General Notes

I believe Helen to be daughter of the prince of Wales.  though not  llwellyn ap Jorworth d 12 40 who md Joan Plantagenet. This Helen married malcom of Fife who died 1266 and then marrie d don of mar.  She was living till 1291.  Llwellyn ap Jorworth had another daughter Helen wh o was born abt 1205.and died 1253.  This Helen was born about 1240.and living 1291.  David a p llwellyn is the only prince of wales alive at this time who could have sired this Helen.  H er parents would then be David and Isabel Braose.  Interestingly , Helen names a daughter Isa bel  who md Robert Bruce.  I believe Helen to be daughter of the prince of Wales.  though not  llwellyn ap Jorworth d 12 40 who md Joan Plantagenet. This Helen married malcom of Fife who died 1266 and then marrie d don of mar.  She was living till 1291.  Llwellyn ap Jorworth had another daughter Helen wh o was born abt 1205.and died 1253.  This Helen was born about 1240.and living 1291.  David a p llwellyn is the only prince of wales alive at this time who could have sired this Helen.  H er parents would then be David and Isabel Braose.  Interestingly , Helen names a daughter Isa bel  who md Robert Bruce.